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I do think those that think Renfrow and AT are essentially the same are going to be either really mad or really happy. Renfrow will not go out there and do what AT did. I think folks happiness will come down to what Canales ask Renfrow to do in the O.

I think it sets up to be sorta similar to last year. Hard to imagine the O is going to ready to be near whatever ceiling it will eventually have. Young WRs, chemistry lacking, and all that gotta be worked out. Canales isn’t really a creative guru so it’s really just going to be on them to get better and up to speed. but the schedule is rather favorable the first quarter or so. in the end I think they sort of progress similar to last season. D a constant. O goes from weak to meh to sorta okay….but the pass game will be asked to do too much and won the ready for that ask.

I agree you don’t who is what this early… and while I don’t think he will be the best college quarterback….Sellars is really the only one as you look to the next draft who I think really has the tools that make you think be might be special at the next level as of right now.

The point was, largely it was cool to be critical of select players all off season (XL) and not be questioned about your fandom, being negative…..but select folks react different if done to Bryce. and if XL had an army of defenders (which he didn’t) there would be plenty of “derailment” as you say. But people largely accepted you should be able to be critical of XL. Therefore the good and bad were BOTH largely accepted convo. I have no clue about your joke analogy. Racist jokes suck. Jokes about race can be funny. I do know some people view it all as the same thing.

Well, Clemson just couldn’t afford to lose their #1 WR that early in the game. overall, thoughts are generally the same. This season was going to come down to two things….can they run the ball and stop the run. I thought the D was actually okay enough. Cade going to catch the heat but…. It’s the run game. Lead RB had 5 carries (9 RB carries overall) in a game that was tied 10-10 in the 4th. Cade ain’t that good enough to carry a game like that and be out in that spot. still think they will figure out the run but that was the worst part of a tough week 1 matchup. Zero time to figure that weakness out Clemson can afford that loss. It’s a an ACC championship world for the ACC primarily

I’d say the real difference of the first half, Dabo is better than Kelly and that’s why the score is what it is at the half way mark. not loving the new Clemson D coordinator. No creativity to this D. Big loss losing their #1 WR Antonio Williams that first drive for Clemson but at least they are super deep at WR. Clemson needs one of these RBs to emerge. They got to find someone that can run the ball this year

Dear eight-pound, six-ounce, newborn infant Jesus, who doesn't even know a word yet—little infant, so cuddly but still omnipotent….you know them fools in Columbia ain’t gonna know how to act if they in the top 10

I’m sticking with my prediction…while many start clutching their pearls if certain players are talked about…it’s been generally cool for the board to poo all over XL with glee. I still think that’s always been the dude for 2025 IMO. XL has the biggest play potential of anyone in our camp. And now is the lone wolf in terms of having any resemblance of game day chemistry with Bryce. (I don’t count Moore) so, to me, XL will be the dude early this season that makes or breaks things ultimately. Can this team find a way to feature him early and get the ball in his hands

Who pulls for Bama though?

Upset alert!! Overrated SEC team in trouble vs ACC team

Guess that’s how you know he is Cooper’s son. And the others are his uncles

Couple nice throws by Arch that drive. Best he has looked

This is the window where it’s hard to judge what is good defense vs bad offense. Ohio State gotta a pretty different group out there on D vs last year but it’s also Ohio State so that roster is slammed also, these big games so early stinks because they will be different teams later on. This what, Arch’s second career a start?? I remember when Trevor went undefeated at Clemson and took down what was billed as the possibly greatest college football team in Bama of all time (pending Bama won that game). Trevor destroyed them for that natty. Why do I bring that up? Trevor Lawerence was ass the first couple games season. Arch gonna need some time to be whatever he will be…even whatever he will be this season

AT was basically Greg Olsen-ish for Bryce. In so many ways. He was keeping stuff on right page and really more of small TE than actual slot WR out there. Canales isn’t going to be able to just insert Hunter into that role on the O that AT was doing. Hunter is a true slot WR. And a niche one at that. Might take some time to try to figure out plays/calls really insert Renfrow into. Thats not really Canales’ base what Hunter does so well

Coker a huge loss. Got to think that was the most reliable target week 1

Justin Jefferson would look bad if I was throwing balls to him. preseason game issue clearly a bad QB issue. Multiple hospital balls and throws to wrong routes

In 2024 the Panthers only had the 25th highest run ratio. We were very pass heavy when we ran our O. Biggest issue is we were SUPER inefficient on offense last year. We ran the fewest offensive plays. Horrible on 3rd down. 28th pass completion %. Bryce lead the league in bad pass %. Hard to get those numbers up when you are that inefficient overall as an O.

I think the college targeting rule (or really the punishment) is the worst in all of sports. I’d didn’t see these hits but ejection for simply any hit that meets the definition of targeting is just too harsh for me.

Yep. GT with 3 straight turnovers and then backed up on the 1 for the start of the 4th series. Colorado blew the gifts overall

GT with 3 fumbles last year. 2 already tonight and making life easy for Colorado. Neither forced.

People see what they want. I have also stated since the moment we drafted Bryce….a badly owned team was screwing HIM over by setting him up to fail by coach/scheme design. Core criticism isn’t actually Bryce…it’s Carolina/front office. I could see Bryce being good. I could see Canales being good. But I don’t see them as a pairing. Football is about fit. Board is doing what the board does. People were idiots who dared question the All Star staff. People raged when Fitterer was criticized. They raged when Rhule was criticized. Until they didn’t.

I sort of don't want to invest or spend anything until Evero is gone and we have a new defensive direction. Evero feels much like Matt Rhule going into his 3rd season. I mean, we KNOW he is getting fired. We are we even doing this. Why are we wasting our time and delaying fixing things for ANOTHER year.

they claim it is a scheme issue. but they are claiming a scheme issue for a guy has had a lot of recent off field issues. Commissioners exempt list last year for some cocaine, assault, etc Think he got off on all of it but the coke.

Hunter wanted to play for Carolina and seemingly only for Carolina. He didn't make the team. His comeback attempt was not to achieve the status of the on and off practice squad team (for a bad team). So I would assume he most likely just walks away. only inconsistent aspect ever reported or seen (and cameras and eyeballs are on all of it), is when they put him in preseason games w/ a bad QB throwing hospitals (and he still pulled in hospital balls) and zero positive plays occurring because of that. Every coach we have ever had bullshits on the mic about the actions of the Panthers. I still say its simplistic. There was really one spot. It was Moore or Renfrow up for that. Dave Canales went with his guy (simply because it's his guy) and he can't get on the mic say it that way. So there is spin on the decision.

I mean, those numbers aren't wiping away the issue. 30th ranked pass O 32nd 40+ yard pass plays 26th 20+ yard pass plays 31st yards per pass attempt The website's job is too sell excitement entering season. Out of the nine stats, only one really zeros in on getting downfield and that is the efficiency aspect. So it's not a # about when you do it or how much you do it.....it's just rating efficiency when you happen to do it (which isn't a lot for Bryce in a passing tree scheme that generally requires it). because if Bryce did go downfield with the efficiency rating suggested and they weren't limited in volume....the passing stats above would be flipped on their head and we wouldn't be bottom of the NFL there.