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As far as the Mays needing to start because of the snap issue….it probably would just be better to not have your C snapping literally every ball as the play clock dances between 1 and 0. I’m sure a lot of those high snaps were just largely tied to desperately trying to avoid taking a penalty. Which isn’t so much a C issue but an offensive operational issue.

Remember, Dave Canales said other people need his preseason playcalling work lol. Yeah, he is a good looking Matt Rhule at this point

My guy. Someone already posted a breakdown with a NFL QB that likes Bryce echoing exactly what I said. He only had pressure because he was late…..and he couldn’t get it out there late because he can’t throw off his back foot well with this weak arm. so I got a NFL QB that backs me. Who you got backing your take?

My guy. The league is slammed full of guys that can make those basic catches. My guy, Bryce has proven he can’t make those throws well. You have SEVERAL examples Sunday alone. * BY’s deep ball placement wasn’t good at Bama and that been talked about for years here at this point. It’s a big problem in the NFL…..because there isn’t 10 yards of separation and NFL guys are only NFL open. Not Bama open.

You mean week 18? Play anyone enough at this level and they can stumble into a good game. Overall his comeback was overstated. He didn’t actually play great. Largely flirting with average was sold as great. It was all Bryce vs Bryce…..not how he really stacked up vs the league.

I mean I can name 20 issues. But if you don’t start with the primary issues, the smaller ones don’t matter. been saying it since the day was drafted. I don’t care which direction they go….just pick. A Bryce centric O or move on. 2nd coach they have hired isn’t running an O that fits him. Round peg and square hole. And Bryce has been too bad to dump Dave and start from scratch year 4 and finally doing it. You want it to be me just moaning about Bryce. I’ve done all the other issues. Bryce is simply the biggest issue and fix given where we are. I started talking about round pegs and desire holes when he was first paired with Frank. It’s failure by design and the miserable thing is lazy. It’s just being willing to state what people don’t want to hear. Everyone hated when I talked about Frank’s O paired with Bryce was doomed. So mad I would talk about Frank at first. Now everyone is cool with it. Bryce Young flat out doesn’t fit these offenses and you can’t make him. Just reality. Nothing matters until they go a real direction and quit pairing stuff that isn’t going to work. Not Bryce’s fault, it’s Carolina with the bad recipe

Tanking is a front office thing, not a coach and player thing. Tanking is real though. Well, attempts at are. Gets tricky as your basically are in a battle with yourself. Wilks and company are the shining example of what tanking is hard

Renfrow set Bryce up for 2 huge plays, possibly both TDs. Bryce botched them both. Renfrow’s nifty route running away from the play also bailed Bryce out of a HORRIFIC pick 6 (that would have been his 4th turnover on the day). Bryce repaid him with a hospital ball. Bryce botched the big sideline homerun to TMac as well. PI at least mitigated that to a degree. XL didn’t get his foot down on one play. He should have. Bryce was the biggest issue Sunday. Plays were there. He couldn’t make basically any of them. Zero

Narratives have to change real quick to defend bad players. when Bryce was drafted it was THE best place for any rookie to land. All star staff. But since the anomaly QB stunk there was little coaching. Generally the worst foobtall teams have one thing in common. A massive QB issue. Bad QBs make everything worse. Any small crack becomes the Grand Canyon. Bryce had mental concerns at Bama. Bryce seemed to need a mental break 3 games into his rookie season. Bryce seems to consistently fold to pressure at the start of every single season (3 in a row) being the worst version of himself. THE only time he even flirted with okay play……was with house money and believed to be done in Carolina. In Bryce’s last 3 games….HE was good in one of them. The last one. In fact, it’s the only actual good game of his entire career if you aren’t going a Bryce curve

I mean, he just isn’t a NFL QB and for whatever reason we are doing the Matt Rhule season 3 thing with Bryce. Everyone should know what is coming but here are…..just doing it and wasting everyone’s time for no real good reason. Rhule still had his folks entering that pointless year too. But most knew it was over before it started in reality

His completion % wasn’t even high. Think OP misstated a stat. Bryce was 30th this week in completion %. The bottom is where he has been every year in the NFL in that department. you gotta dig real deep in analytics to make a Bryce argument

Once Carr left, things suddenly weren’t as bad. The losing seasons went away starting the first year. And they didn’t bring in Lamar Jackson, it was just an okay Matt Schuab but yeah, logically we are the Carr Texans at this point.

It’s largely because XL is in the doghouse. It’s like the 3 Renfrow balls. Blaming him is just comically bad takes. Renfrow set Bryce up for 2 big plays….he couldn’t make the throws though and thanked him with a hospital ball. Renfrow won’t last the year. Renfrow while tiny and high IQ… is a baller. He will put his tiny frame out there. Bryce will end his comeback

Fox Sports has WRs drops for the same folks….plus a KC drop. Maybe it’s not all updated yet but pro football reference, Fox and those types are way more useful resources than Big Dawg Fantasy Takes that has 10 Panther drops pulled from Imagination Land. the real point is a drop by a WR isn’t justification for your QB being a complete nightmare….who then pads his stats to hide how horrific he was in the final 8 minutes. WRs are imperfect in good days by good QBs.

I use Pro Football Reference. Please advise if there is a better location to retrieve the actual NFL stats? Maybe they haven't fully updated. PFF and fantasy football sites IMO aren't where it's at. They seem to be in the entertainment game and manufacturing debate stage.

They aren't credited with drops. That's just PFF. Not sure why they are still being pimped this hard when week 1 really highlights how bad they can be at times. Especially when they manufactured Bryce's grade like they did. Some 1984 stuff going on there....PFF telling folks not to believe their eyes and ears.

didn't say it was. Just addressing the billion posts about drops. being wide open over the top doesn't mean much either if your QB can't get the ball out there properly.

it was just clarifying some confusion, there have been about 48 billion posts made by some Bryce apologist that WRs dropped balls and let Bryce Young down (and that's why we sucked). So it was just clarifying the WRs had no drops, and the QBs that did see a drop....it didn't ruin their teams day.

this. although, I think you gotta slightly worry about a very small handful of competent players. Horn, Brown, Hunt, etc. Eventually, everyone starts thinking like Theilen.

that's exactly why Canales got fugged. They were only forced to play Bryce because they allowed that to be what happened when Andy got hurt. The talk was all about trading Bryce Young given it was clearly over. Morgan and Carolina didn't pull the trigger.......they allowed for the nightmare comeback (of meh) to occur. In the end, it blew up in their face sort of like the Wilks tank job attempt. Wilks blew that up in their faces too. Bryce ended up fugging up their plans. Carolina can't do anything right. Even when they sort of get it right in the big picture. They should of dealt Bryce. And if you want to actually tank....you keep Rhule and trade CMC. You don't insert of functional HC into the dysfunction.

Only 4 NFL Quarterbacks Sunday had WRs drop passes on Sunday. Allen, Rodgers, Tua, and Lawrence. 3 of those 4 QBs walked away with wins.

exactly, this is on the level of David Carr.....yet unlike parting w/ David Carr after a year we are entering year 3. We are basically the David Carr Houston Texans right now. Rationalizing how it is really everyone else making Carr/Bryce bad.

Bill Parcells did a great job summing it up at draft time. "I realize there have been a couple of good short quarterbacks, but most of the guys doing these jobs are not 5-10. So if you draft people that look like the people that are already doing these jobs, your percentage (of hitting on them) is greater than if you draft someone who doesn't look like them." and specifically mentioning Bryce Young Parcells said Young "better walk on water"

Russell Wilson is an old washed QB on this 5th team in 6 years. Being better than one random rotating QB each week is basically the life of Bryce Young. Caleb Williams plays the game wildly different than Bryce with wildly different tools. Bryce Young had frankly several relatively easy homerun plays he botched downfield. Panthers WRs winning vertically and BY should can't get it done. Also, there were plays to be made on the ground. Make no mistake Caleb sucks. But Caleb is in a vastly different tier of QB in terms of tools and throws. Caleb can make throws and runs that just don't exist for Bryce on a good day. There was just absurd stuff in reality on the table in terms of plays that could of been made. Bryce just isn't good. It's the primary problem in a sea of problems.