Basbear

Parsons was on the 2nd highest point total allowed defense, so he sucks too..... He's also on a one year deal. Fact and point of that comment was to point out there are good/great/and even elite players on bad/30th rank units. Lloyd has been great from his first snap and only missed 4 or so games in 3 years. He is not a reason for jags defense suckage.

I agree, the overall 2025 value scale is WR >>>> MLB. Big difference. Like many "message" board trade deals, its a tough balance. Lloyd was also a late 1st rounder and Coker was UDFA, that's a issue as well. I don't know how the current Brad/Dan/Evero/PFFFfff/Panthers leadership view the MLB role on a NFL roster. They made one switch recently for a LB, still looking at the current group. They are giving the impression that street FAs are enough for the job......

Lloyd would only add 1.6 to the cap, that's awful small on the scale and Panthers have plenty of room to do so. Im no PFffffft guy, Lloyd was rated as top 15 overall LB in 2023 AND 2024. (Panthers *seem* to be heavy into PFF models/grades/whatever's) Simple terms Panthers have extra WR and huge hole at MLB. Your 2nd worst comments, come on LG...Ive known you since the scout.com days. JC Horn was on the worst defense last year and played 15-16 games, is he trash because of that? You know the answer. I have no clue, why jags do jags stuff. Im not going to even try to piss up that rope. They drafted 2 LBs in this years draft and before that they had great depth and starters. Like the Panthers WR room, there's not enough chairs for all the NFL level ones. Rather than cut a player or two and get nothing, flip them to a team instead. Believe it of not player for player trades have been trending up in recent years, especially with the 5th/6th for 7th inclusion...

Not hate meant towards people who gamble, *so long you are not ruining loved ones life*. I do not care what people do with their money, not my business. Years ago I had a couple acquaintances that gamble for their main job, at one point one of them made a legit fortune betting on WNBA of all things. Im not nearly as informed as a once was about sports in general and that was my whole reason we hung out- talk sports and strategy. You can call me whatever label, I say this while wanting as freedom as humanly possible. If I was king of all lands, no ads for drugs or gambling. FYI I consider food a drug(pills, booze, etc), so no food ads too. Still have the means to gamble and buy drugs, but not though ADs.

I hope Coker wins SBMVP for the Panthers, Im a big fan and just understand roster numbers, needs, and cap.

Yea its universal downward trend. I think x/twatter is where many are and discord has some groups. I tried to join discord but had privacy issues. YouTube has too many panther content people groups, I never subbed or followed one I thought highly enough, besides I try not to login there too. I do know this the average NFL fan views the Panthers as irrelevant. Cam bought a whole new group, double if not more than panther fans numbers were he was drafted and scored TDs. Whatever you think of Cam and the fans he bought, that was a huge increase in cred, attention, and traffic. Once Cam was no longer a panther, at the same time Panthers lost Lllllluke, Olsen, Thomas Davis Peppers, CMC, KK, and even DJ Moore. There's no star appeal. pair that with losing and you only have the die-hard or stubborn fans left. In this current era, there are big groups that only follow single players and not the teams. I came along and was loyal to the team first.....Then fantasy football and gambling have taken over, thus people only care if a player hit their over/under number for the dopamine gambler win, same for fantasy football they don't care if KC won, did malhomes pass for 350+ and more than 2 TDs???? That's just the current deal, and it blows digested cheese chunks If not for DVR, Id already dropped the watching the Panthers. I could NOT STAND WATCHING ALL THE FANDUEL/GAMBLING ADS. It was beyond sicking to me. They replaced all the beer ads and I drink and was tried of them TOO!!

Hes now the 3rd best panther to get in a car wreck in the last 15 years...

Pause! No Bet, youz str8 bussin drip like wHHaaTTT gang gang

I swear..... it feels like 90% of time panther reward some player with a big bag, they get injuries or fall off performance-wise or cut/traded... (within 3 years) Honestly it feels like many teams have the same curse. It feels like you have to factor in the player missing at least one year during the 2nd/3rd contract or be cut/traded/talent-drop within 2-3 years. It's almost like don't pay anyone. Trade them for picks or tag. Only pay- burrow, Jackson, Allen, malhomie, Parsons, JJ, Jones, williams, lamb, chase, Garrett, Lawrence, and couple more top elites. top 30-ish gives money, everyone else trade or other.....

Iceage, Capt mo, Juan of months, Kung Fu, John snow and few others(forgive me soldiers) are trying their hardest to give teh dying huddle life. Going to miss all of you.

Watch the hype machine in full effect en route to breaking some PS records......

Tampa Bay - 14 New Orleans - 20 God Dam this division is middle earth sewage!!

bro, do you need a assisnat GM? One that three years had a 91% win rate with around hundred trophies on yahoo. fug I just realized this is ESPN, I'm rusty as sunken war machines in the ocean.

They need to play more than a couple series or two, weak soft BS Play them a half in each game or until they don't need the exp.....

Bro, this year its worth re-learning, trust. They may not win 7, but this season will be worth watching unlike the past two. I have never had as much trouble watching football as the past 2 years, just soul crushing. If its the same slop, bump this thread and Ill send you video of my ex-lover stomping on my jewels...

After I witness Hunter giving Moehrig a double dose of AI cross-over, that was it for me. He made a 51 million man look like curb stomp soup and that guy has guarded him while on the raiders.

I want to let you know one are one of the few posters that I stop and read. You have that much power with me, have so for years and I will continue to enjoy yours and a few choice others postings. If I hurt your feelings or you are too bothered to read my 7th grade grammar/spelling, My brother please use the ignore function to rid yourself of my posts. Godspeed and keep pounding.

You cannot trade Dbrown this year or next due to his massive dead cap. Thanks to teppers wallet, Dbrown has a huge guarantee and thus trading him cause a 47,500,000 cap hit along with paying Parsons 41,000,000. It doesn't work at all, with Icky and BY are soon for huge hits as well. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/47600/derrick-brown Of course I would, if the cap didn't matter. I almost know if every player entered a draft pool, atleast 20 out of 32 GMs would select Parsons as the first non-QB for the draft. He's that well thought of. Just NFL has these silly rules and there's not many teams able to give Parsons the current value, that's a problem for him.

Garbers was cut day two of TC, or was it day one??.... He didn't stay long enough to digest the beacons greatness..... They seem perfectly fine with with 3, all of reports praising Dalton. Just like plummer improved so has Dalton and of course BY too.

Well, I think this will be the start of me dropping NFL. But I allow to see how it goes, just feels like the end of me investing time following my favorite team.

Hes wants the highest paid non-QB deal. Like Horn he's got some injury questions, its awful hard to pay someone in street cloths. I do not see any way Dallas trades him. Lastly, everyone in near talking about two 1st is enough??? I think it was be MUCH more, like another 1st, 2nd and mids and maybe even some players. He's young and a force when healthy. I hope he doesn't end up in the NFC south and I see no chance Panthers even call.

Ive been cordial with others who were started cordial with me. Then others name called and said things hateful about me that had nothing to do with topic on a caroilna Panthers message board. I allowed a few jabs and defended myself too. Now you agree about trolling, that's such weak BS. Im all for the each side and their evidence being posted, just cokeheads don't have a case, unless hes view as a top promising WR with XL, Tmac, horn on the roster. Im fine, others need to adjust when different value is placed on the feels of "best" young WR... Plenty of posting shows this clear. Back on topic and keep pounding fellow panther fans!!