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Oh poo! Straight from the creator himself! What did you do?

What happened to the real deal???

I thought I read where Brown helped create the offense. Maybe he is going to lean more towards the plays he likes/created.

On the outside I would guess it has dropped, but people smarter than us are able to separate the player from the situation. I'd say he is still a first rounder but who knows exactly where he falls.

Agreed, just showing they were high on him.

You want his? First 2 seasons as a starter his average was 6.2 and 5.9 17 TDs 16 INTs then 11 TDs 15 Ints. He did have longs of 52 and 68 though. He finished his career with 7.6 and a 98 long! Sounds like he was able to air it out some but must have thrown even more dinks and dunks to average it back down early in his career.

6 games too late, but hopefully he can give our offense a pulse.

Hopefully Corbett, Woods, and Bell. I know it's a longshot, but we could really use Horn as well.

If Brown is as talented as advertised he should make this look instantly better. I mean the bar is pretty damn low…

I’m amazed at Stroud’s transition to the NFL, disappointed we didn’t draft him, but still see potential in Young. Should we have traded what we did for Young? Probably not, but we can hopefully walk away from this with a good QB for many years to come.

@Varking wanted Stroud, but he has been pretty optimistic about Young. I mean what do you want him to do shun the player we should have drafted?

Best news I’ve read all day. We might win this Houston game. Let’s hope some players get healthy too.

Texans tried to trade up to draft him. We outbid them.

I think the point is sometimes offenses not calling for deep passes doesn't always mean the QB can't throw it deep. Mahomes would be the case and point. Young is getting hammered behind our OL and people are wondering why he doesn't throw it deep. My guess would be pressure/time to set up the big throw? Mahomes has had some issues with his OL plus weapons not names Kelce this year as well. I think our OL playing in the wrong scheme is the biggest issue with our offense. The no huddle quick offense marched down the field twice and scored against a solid team at home. Then we slow it down and watch our undersized QB get hit/pressured constantly. It's very frustrating to watch as I am see most of us already know....

I agree. They keep trying to do a quick fix and unfortunately there isn't one. Trading away picks and turning down great offers for players when our roster is no one near ready has shown to be very short sighted. The latest is throwing a rookie QB out there and seeing if he can save this offense that's stripped away of most of it's talent.

QBs that can make plays strictly with their legs can make due with subpar talent around them, but that is very temporary. Cam short career, Vick couldn't stay healthy, Lamar has had an injury bug lately so they are trying to surround him with better talent which is the right thing to do. Brady and Rogers typically had elite OLs and when they didn't they struggled (relatively speaking). Rodgers started getting banged up with his OL got injured and of course this year without an elite group of blockers. Rodgers also had Adams for a while and Brady had Gronk (later part of his career), Brady's Tampa team was pretty loaded and Rodgers was trying to do the same with that Jets team. They realize they need the talent around them to really make a run. Mahomes could be another one outside of Kelce he hasn't been working with much since Hill left. Maybe we just need an elite TE for Young? Gronk for Brady, Andrews for Lamar, Olsen for Cam, Kelce for Mahomes, Kittle for Purdy seem to go a long way. I agree with your last paragraph 100%.

So which QBs don't need elite weapons? Tua, Burrow, Purdy, and Hurts have the best cast around them plus some great coaching. Stroud is making it work with below average weapons, but a lot of the great ones have elite talent around them. Outside of AT (who is a 2 or 3 on most teams) we have below average weapons and an OL that is playing terrible. I want to see Young with a solid OL and actual average weapons with solid coaching. A rookie with a bad OL, below average weapons, and a below average HC isn't going to look very good a majority of the time IMO.

I do know his first year starting at Alabama he was pretty bad at deep throws, but halfway through the season he got much better. I'm not sure if it just takes him longer to get the timing down since he doesn't have a cannon arm or what the issue is. Whatever it is, he and our staff need to figure it out.

It looks to me like the safety is 30 plus yards back and breaks in on AT once Young is releasing the ball. They also know our OL won’t be able to hold blocks long enough for a deep play to develop. Plus there was a very high chance the ball was going to AT.

Blocking no one while our RG gets manhandled. I just don’t think this is the OL for their zone blocking they want to do. Just let our OL play to their strengths like Wilks did and adjust the schemes once you have the players to execute it. Reich and his crew seem pretty stubborn in making their scheme work no matter what roster/players they have.

If Woods and Bell are back I think we have a good chance. Corbett and possibly Horn and I think we win (assuming these players play at their usual levels).

I think we make a strong run at Higgins if he becomes a FA. Higgins, AT, and year 2 Mingo is a good start. With Bryce’s size issues we have to get some better OG play as well.

I mean there was a reason we signed him for so cheap even with the injury history. He is a solid deep threat, but you need a decent OL to really take advantage of that.

Imagine Cam with Andy Reid as his coach