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How long are his arms?

Imagine that play action, the defense would never know where the ball is…

He would have been a great QB!

Who had the biggest hands of any prospect?

Need bigger hands!!! Ridder knows what’s up.

No one wants to watch Darnold again. It wasn’t enjoyable last year…

Should have drafted one year 1 or 2.

Wasn’t trying to single you out, just in general people are looking at Willis and Howell’s stats during certain games without watching the tape. The stats are important, but don’t tell the full story IMO. Willis is definitely raw, but has a cannon for an arm and can launch it off the run.

Looks like someone actually is watching the game vs looking at the stats. Willis and Howell had awful OL play all year.

Hell Lance struggled against Illinois St 10/21 no TDs and 11 rushes for 41 yards. What do you think he would have done against a SEC school? Again how did Allen do against better talented teams in college? Even Mahomes sucked it up against Iowa St who probably had less talent than Texas Tech. Willis would be a pick based on potential more than where he is at now. Similar to Lance and Allen.

Go watch Allen or Lance’s tape against stronger competition. It’s difficult when the entire roster is outmatched on talent…

The one not in the NFL happens to be the one people are wanting number 1 next year. What about Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Russ Wilson? I get 6’1” is below average, but plenty have had success at that height and shorter in today’s NFL. Go take a look at Allen’s passing numbers in college…. Very tame. Willis would be a pick based on raw ability and potential much like Lance and Allen were.

So taller than Bryce Young, Kyler Murray and an inch shorter than Lamar?

No I’m on the don’t let our incomplete team be the reason for passing on a QB.

No but if we pass on one who turns another franchise around you bet your ass I’ll be bitter.

Why you gotta ruin my day….

If you don’t like what you see you don’t draft one. I just said there is one they are high on, they should just draft him.

Just giving examples of teams that got their QBs and built around them. Of course there aren’t identical prospects as before. My point is if there is one we are high on we should just draft him.

Blindly throwing darts? You analyze each prospect and see if one fits what we are looking for. Herbert was a bit of a question mark as he underperformed in Oregon’s system. Allen was a surprise as well, but they found one they liked and went ahead and drafted him.

Burrow will be the first NCAA Championship winner to win the Super Bowl in a long time. I mean with that logic should we target UGA’s QB? (No thanks) Allen was incredibly raw and people are saying the same thing about Willis, but Herbert is turning around LAC pretty quickly. He came into a OL as bad as ours. They drafted Slater AFTER they already had their QB. Herbert wasn’t a champ (which doesn’t seem to have any correlation) or a Heisman winner. LAC is in a prime position to make a playoff run, hell they almost made it this year.

People are acting like if we don’t take a OL at 6 our line will be the exact same. BC and Brown should be better, FA is a possible solution for interior OL, you just have to pay for the good ones. BC, FA, ELF, Brown, and Moton is instantly better than what we have. Now throw in some 4-7th rounders and have some competition. The OL can be addressed without using our first rounder on it. QB can be also, but we have failed at it twice now.

David Carr may have just been a bust like many other QBs. You have to draft one to have a chance. Herbert with LAC, Burrow with the Bengals, Murray with the Cards, Allen with Buffalo. Once you have your QB it becomes a lot easier to plug in pieces around him. The Colts and WFT are wasting years of talented players because they can’t find a QB to put in their talented rosters. These good players on teams they are building are also going to want to be paid soon. There is a reason why QBs are “overvalued” in the draft, because they can flip a franchise quicker than any other position.

That’s what teams that are already good do. Cowher had them playing great before Big Ben was drafted with Stewart and Maddox (briefly). The Chiefs were able to do it with Mahomes and the Ravens with Jackson. The problem is when you are already at the bottom like we are the quickest way to turn it around is finding your QB then building around him.

I kind of want Pickett to do great in the Senior Bowl/Combine so someone like the Giants draft him ahead of us. Howell/Willis makes the most sense for our team, but Rhule could definitely screw it up and take Pickett at 6…

Agree 100%. Both are big arms QBs who carried shaky rosters throughout the season. Both had terrible lines and kept their teams competitive. I think Howell might have a higher floor (more polished passer, better competition), but Willis has the highest ceiling (stronger arm, better overall athlete).