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To be fair Rice looked like an absolute star at wr from about week 11 of 23 until he got hurt this year. Thats a bummer

He had close to 2000 yards and 15 yds. Robinson is a beast

He was ass that year before he got hurt

He will be 32 oct of next year. And the choice as of now is play him at this current contract for this season, see how he plays and then decide to opt out, restructure or keep playing on the existing deal. I see only 1 of those options viable, opt out after 2025 no matter how he plays and then try and resign him. But by all accounts he is a headcase currently eye balling his 5th team. Why would he want to come here initially and why would he resign here if we opted out of his deal?

In your scenario for all this to work is for him to not only play like a top 10ish corner and assuming he would redo his original deal if we didnt want to out right cut him. Yeah man I dont think extending a 32 year old corner is in our cards especially when the average age of a nfl corner is 27. That just doesnt make sense no matter how well one thinks he is playing. All in all like you say its all assumptions and hypotheticals but I really dont see morgan doing this after everything he has said and done about bad contracts

So under that scenario the panthers would void the deal after 2025 season and he could simply walk. Seems like a pricey gamble for a 4rth or 5th round pick. And thats not even considering we cant afford him status quo.

He turns 31 in Oct. He has an out after this season. If he stays on his current contract its at 25 million per and he would turn 32 during that season You dont pay 32 year old corners 25 million dollars. So in all likelihood its a one year rental.

I mean he played half the season, so your mileage may vary on touting how much he actually contributed.

Moton aint getting restructured, yall need to let this go. And I really dont see any value adding a declining player with a huge cap hit that we would probably cut after the season. Not sure why we would restructure a huge deal for a 32 year old corner. It just doesnt make sense. Morgan has been clear about kicking the proverbial can down the road. And if you think Ramsey is the missing piece that is going to unlock our defense and help challenge for the division then we can just agree to disagree at that point. 2026 is the season we should take bigger swings. 2025 is about culture and getting our existing players reps and hopefully wins.

I was looking more at the 8 game angle then the actual play. But yeah he was a stud, when he played

Was he for us though?

You don't pay a 32 year old corner 25 million a year. There is an out after 25

The Ramesy thing doesnt make sense as its only a one year rental. Seems like an expensive rental.

fools gold

he was just extended

we resigned him knowing he was going to have back surgery?

mike kaye was giving us a ton of "pump the brakes on bryce" smoke signals all last preseason. Thats why I really respect him.

Tmac looks slow

I mean you can believe what you want but we offered him far and away the most money The Panthers entered the draft needing to acquire multiple receivers. It explains why they made Coker one of the highest-paid undrafted players. They signed Coker to a deal that contained a $25,000 signing bonus with $225,000 in salary guarantees, according to ESPN. It’s more money than some late-round draft picks make. It signals how badly Morgan wanted to add Coker to his roster and it should improve his chances of making the team.

the odds of making the team are akin to winning the lottery, they are going to take the money 10 times out of 10

Our defense was sick and we had a qb that went supernova. Was a thing of beauty to watch in real time

We offered him the most UDFA money so yeah it was 100% about the money

This year is all about getting nfl experience, 2026 is when we should be pinning our ears back and making a substantial run with defensive improvement. I think we are still going to be dogshit on defense.

Vashti drops some nuggets every so often Josh Klein used to be plugged in but I think his dude left and then he moved to Europe Ellis used to be good but got neutered when he got credentials But all in all I think Kaye and Person stand out. Kaye has a bit more detailed insight but I think Person pushes back a wee bit more.