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Did it? I thought it was a sensational hire.

It's a franchise crippling deal for us - with a roster that needs all the help it can get. Watson threw for a billion yards last year and still only won 4 games. He'd be in the same situation here. As you state, the Jets and the Dolphins are perfectly poised to make the trade if they want. I can't imagine many other teams realistically being in with a shot.

Yes and he lit the world on fire with that supporting cast. I'm struggling to see how that is a negative.

Then honestly they fine him his entire salary for next year and try again. They're not going to give him up for peanuts.

The 4 everyone drools over have the arm strength and athleticism that allows a player to get away with things in the NFL - they have obvious flaws, but the potential is there. Allen is obviously the poster boy for this - he's blossomed in year 3 after 2 so-so years where he survived due to his physical gifts. Jones obviously plays by a different set of rules and it's why this week is huge for him. He needs to win with accuracy, poise and command of the offence. Brady / Brees / Manning et al show that this still flies in the NFL, but it's a tough sell in 2021. Our coaching staff getting hands on with him for a week will solidify his position on the Draft board - they already know what he can do from a physical stand point, they're clearly keen to see what he can do from a mental one.

I mean he can move a little bit, but he's not a running threat. If you're comparing them as athletes, Tua might be Brees and Jones might be Brady. Neither one of those guys is ever spied.

I've watched him play quite a lot - I actually like him as a player and really appreciate how he's developed (from backing up D'Eriq King in High School to finishing 4th in the Heisman voting). It's just the lack of velocity on his throws is jarring. It simply won't fly in the NFL. I think he's a career clipboard holder.

Tutu Atwell is the only Louisville WR I'm interested in.

Trask's arm strength (or lack thereof) is what terrifies me.

There's no way they're taking Newman. They've got a close look at him this week and he's been poor.

Why does Rhule scare you? He listened to Bill Parcells and Joe Brady and brought in Bridgewater (a former Pro Bowler, former 1st round pick) on a two year deal that didn't break the bank. I don't think Bridgewater has been near as bad as the groupthink makes him out to be, but clearly he's not the guy you build a team around. That said, I do think something has gone on behind the scenes and Rhule has soured on him somewhat. Haskins went to the Steelers - they seem to know what they're doing. As for Jones, I get Brady vibes from him. He won't be the pick at #8, but after Rhule's comments this week about him and Fitterer's comments last week about pick value I wouldn't be surprised if we trade down into the 20s and take him - acquiring additional picks along the way.

If we're trading up to #2 / #3 overall for a QB, I'd rather just trade #8 for Stafford.

I think the opposite. "Hi, we would like to discuss trading a first round pick for Matthew Stafford. Why yes, we did speak to the Houston Texans first about Deshaun Watson and they asked for our next three Drafts."

Honestly, what traits does Tua have that Jones doesn't? Tua went what, #4 overall? I'm not advocating taking Jones btw, I'm just curious what evaluators saw in Tua that they don't see in Jones. They literally played in the same system, at the same school with the same players.

Bieniemy has consistently failed to impress when interviewing for Head Coaching jobs. When you consider his paper thin resume, maybe he's just a shitty candidate?

You have Lance in your avatar. Lawrence is by far the best QB in this Draft. Who do you hate out of Fields and Wilson?

JT O'Sullivan shredded Newman on his YT channel 'QB School'. Well, as much as he shreds anyone - seems to want to keep on the good side of everyone.

(I'm going to get poo'd for this) I think people are blinded by their hate for Bridgewater. I absolutely don't think we're tied to him - his manageable contract and comments by Fitterer / Tepper / Rhule suggest that - but he was ok last year. 3,700 yards (basically 4k combined), 20 TDs (combined), all without his best offensive weapon. He's not the future, but he does provide you with a security blanket so that you don't have to reach for a Mac Jones or a Kyle Trask if you trade down in the first round. I've no idea where those two are going by the way, but I also wouldn't be surprised if some team has a first round grade on them - I just don't see it myself.

I've never understood people trying to predict the future. Mac Jones and Kyle Trask came from practically nowhere to borderline 1st round picks this year. Burrows came from literally nowhere to the #1 overall pick. You have to let these 18/19/20 year olds develop. Right now people are pushing Wilson and Lance based off one good year. It's the same every time.

He said acquire a QB each year, which is the right thing to do. You should always carry three QBs imo. If the second guy isn't pushing the starter then he's on the bubble with the third guy (who should be a developmental prospect). As for the mental gymnastics around Stafford. They're getting a first round pick for him - if we want him it's going to cost #8 overall. Everyone talking about trading back / throwing their C into the mix. It ain't happening. This will be settled way before the Draft. I'd be v, v surprised if he's not a Colt.

I think it's more that we're irrelevant when it comes to the national media.

Is he bringing Patrick Mahomes with him?

It's just pure corruption.

Well, fug.

At the moment if you're not Alabama, Ohio St, Clemson (or LSU for one miracle year) you're not winning a National Championship.