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Yes.

I disagree - the best I've seen that system run was when the Broncos had Jake Plummer - a mobile QB. You have to have a mobile QB in that system to account for the athletic zone blocking Olinemen not holding up against the pass.

I'm pretty much Jones' biggest fan on the board and even I don't think they've traded all that for him.

I'm currently delighted we didn't get Adam Peters if he had any part in this trade.

You want to give up future first round picks for the 4th best QB (in theory) in the Draft? Just have to let it ride at this point - continue rebuilding the roster.

Because they think a guy that obliterated the SEC on his way to a National Title is a good player?

Same, but for Fields. To me it's Wilson / Lawrence - big gap - Fields / Jones - gap - Lance (dude is all potential) - Mond - everyone else.

We don't know how much the Bills have paid him (or at least I can't see with a quick Google search). We'd have had to pay him a minimum of $2,133,000 if we'd tendered him. As we didn't think Kerr was worth $1.6m I can understand why they'd have balked at paying Obada more.

Most credible evaluators have Jones as the #3 QB in the Draft.

Where has this this 'top 4 QB' phrase come from? People throw it around like it's a fact. It really baffles me.

That's oddly specific. You ok, bud?

Isn't be meant to be a bit of a nutter? Pulling a knife on a teammate, hazing Freshmen with his dong etc?

They both report to Tepper.

Dude has over 8k receiving yards and 82TDs. I mean he's been pretty good in the NFL.

Just for shits and giggles (in order of brilliance): Tony Romo - 5.01 Matthew Stafford - 4.81 Matt Ryan - 4.89 Philip Rivers - 5.08 Ben Roethlisberger - 4.75 Drew Brees - 4.83 Peyton Manning - 4.88 Patrick Mahomes - 4.8 Tom Brady - 5.28

So you're a pretty content Panthers fan then 'cos that's pretty much what we've achieved as a franchise so far. No thanks. I'd like to be a consistent winner.

I honestly don't think it's as simple as Lawrence > Wilson > Fields > Lance > Jones (several well respected QB evaluators have Lawrence and Wilson as a clear 1-2 with Jones as the third guy). I'm also not sure about the resources involved either - some think Lance will fall significantly. A lot of posters have entrenched themselves with their opinion on these QB prospects and every debate just descends into the same old tired arguments.

What was said yesterday?

Delhomme was literally the king of rainbow deep throws. That's not an indication of arm strength at all.

No mention of Rhule - the shaaaaaaaade.

It's a little bit pathetic at this point.

At the end of the day they spent a week with him in Mobile - and didn't push him to play in the game with a niggling foot injury. They'll know all they need to about him at this point - and as Rhule has discussed, getting to know the guys is half the evaluation battle (something he's missed with the Combine being cancelled). We'll see how it plays out, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's our guy.

I'll still take the 2001 Canes. McGahee, Portis, Gore, Johnson, Winslow and Shockey. Two certain HoFers.

Their floor is one of the hottest QB commodities in the NFL and a guy that's taken the Browns to their first Playoffs in forever? I mean, c'mon son.

Damn, son. I've defended Bridgewater all year because I don't think he's as bad as many make out, but when Clark Kent savages you like that it's time to get in your mini-van and hit the road.