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DeMeco Ryans disagrees with you.

It isn't just about challenging him. The starter job was always going to be his this season. It's about having someone anyone that can actually be developed at low cost that isn't a total trash can or a washed up vet that serves no purpose. It's also about what's best for the team. We have other young players on the roster that need to be developed. There are 17 games to be played and that experience is valuable. But only if we have backup QB's capable of providing anything of substance. Having the worst QB room in the league is not that. Ideally the Panthers should have drafted a late round QB this year to go along with another QB next year. The Panthers need real leadership on the roster on the offensive side of the ball badly. If you aren't getting that from your QB in some capacity you do not have a QB. Until that exists it's the cellar for us.

Standards around here are subterranean.

I think it boils down to the baffling inconsistency in the approach from Fitterer from the jump. And Rhule before he got here. They flipped back and forth between trying to win now and a partial rebuild. It should have been a full rebuild all along. All roads go back to Tepper. Without his constant meddling and always pushing for the wrong decision and making big splashes to get him media attention we could already be competing for the playoffs. I'm talking all the way back to the 2020 offseason. Ever since he did Cam that way it's been disaster. That's no coincidence. We're snakebit.

Bryce's body language after that really bad pick in camp yesterday looked like a guy who just wanted to get it over with. We can argue over what precisely defines a true leader. But elite processing and elite leadership were two key attributes that were the justification to draft him #1. At this point I'm seeing neither.

I would have preferred to keep Burns somehow. Declining the Rams offer is a hindsight thing where obviously you look back with regret. But the whole reason we declined the trade was bc we were supposed to be building something. Instead we later traded away DJ Moore with zero plan to replace him. Then after we move on from Burns because we didn't want to pay him what he was asking we spend over 100 million dollars on the oline and watch (almost) all our backups play like the worst roster in the NFL in the first preseason game. It's just been one trainwreck to the next. My biggest thing with Morgan right now is the talk of this new dawg mentality he's been seeking. I'm just not seeing it in any way shape or form from the offense. In fact seeing our #1 pick blindly throwing interceptions into double coverage in practice and then acting as if he could barely care is the complete opposite of any dawg mentality. As of right now I don't think the future looks good for Dan. It might not be entirely his fault but this is his ship now.

The Carolina Panthers exist. Based on the ups and notable downs of these practices the starters sitting and complimenting the coach on how much they like him and now ending practice pretty early giving me vibes of the early Ron Rivera days I'm thinking the Jets matchup is either going to go really well or really bad. Dave Canales is handsome.

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I get what they're trying to do but all this talk of the secondary only matters if: A). Jaycee Horn can actually stay healthy. B). If our offense can actually sustain drives and score. Even if Jaycee miraculously plays the majority of the season eventually this secondary is going to get eaten up if the defense is on the field an exorbitant amount of time because the offense is utterly useless.

Threw it directly to two defenders blanketing one receiver without looking at that side of the field for even half a second. In the midst of all this you have simps asking why the place is negative

It's a bizarre expectation given the full picture of circumstances. Whether we had an MVP behind center or a crappy QB that player has always been the biggest needle mover in discussion. Now that the league and the officiating are so offense friendly the conversation is only further amplified because even other teams in our division who have moved on from longtime QB's like Brees and Ryan that were thorns in our side for years are going about addressing the quarterback situation better. How many years now has the Falcons roster been a pile of poo? They still move the ball better. You even have some fans arguing it could take years just for us to have an offense capable of moving the ball at a consistent pace. For fugs sake even Matt Rhule in his first season had us moving the ball. Had us even believing Robby Anderson might actually be a starting WR. Some people here act like just because you have expectations you walked up and kicked their dog and smacked their baby. It's ridiculous.

I would personally shake the hand of the media person who would ask Dan Morgan about how he reconciles talking about needing dawgs on this team in his introductory press conference and the factory of sadness that is our milquetoastery QB room.

Sobering seeing the offensive output thus far in the preseason compared to us. Even the Broncos dropped 30+. Legitimately someone should be fired for this Panthers QB room.

Nobody legitimately wants Bridgewater or any of the bum QB's of yesteryear back. Bad is bad. But we have absolutely labored for even field goals as of late and defenses have absolutely no fear of a deep ball from our O. We have tumbled even further than our usual through the bulk of the Richardson years. That is saying something.

"Bryce Young taking some chances" .... with Diontae Johnson's health.

Teddy Bridgewater had a cannon by comparison versus what we've been subjected to.

Can you stop being the ministry of propaganda here? That ball was too far out of bounds for the receiver to make a play on it without making an acrobatic grab and that was an issue last season as well. I mean the guy got shaken up trying to haul it in and you're still desperately running interference. Do you think that won't eventually result in some tempers flaring if he continues this trend into the regular season like last year? DJ will absolutely let BY hear about it eventually. Our receivers have to help the QB and our QB has to help the receivers. It's a two way street.

Ugly isn’t the word. That's our first overall pick who sat out the first preseason game tossing a no look INT. Looks errily familiar to some turnovers from last year. Just brutal.

I just can't say what they will or won't be until I see them actually play together with the rest of the OL. I hope they are good as is the rest of the offensive line. But it's been an issue for years now. I think the odds of a night and day turnaround are low. Anywho I really want to see these guys up against the Jets in some real action. Much has been said about resting our starters but for the longest time it seems like every year we've talked about the oline needing time to gel and we have a new head coach a new offense and new key players along the position group this season and some people think the way we are going about this is no problemo. I'm very skeptical. These guys need to get out there for a few series in a preseason game. The whole offense does.

Two of the best guards on other talented rosters last year. We haven't seen them play a down with this offensive group in live game action yet. And let's be honest. We overpaid. History hasn't been kind to our Panthers under such circumstances. I'm not saying we shouldn't have signed them but to invest such a steep amount and then leave center basically up in the air is just baffling. You can agree yes?

Uh no.

When he gets set to throw the WR and DB aren't even in the frame. He's throwing to a spot but he's putting it too far out. He made a habit out of this last season too. You can find highlights of receivers contorting themselves trying to haul the passes in. Bryce Young simply has iffy deep ball accuracy and always has. There just hasn't been any improvement.