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Tell that to Dan Morgan.

This place is not even scratching the surface of how insufferable broader social media is. Also. The ignore function is for pansies.

4-3 would be the best path but either way we need loads of new talent in here.

I have to be honest the constant use of it while ignoring other data makes it seem less significant the more I see it. I mean at the end of the day someone can hang a banner on whatever definition of a big time throw is and Bryce doing well in that but the full reality is it took Byrce about 23 games to Kyle Allen's 13 just to surpass his 3300 passing yards from 2019. And Kyle Allen sucks.

He's shown some definitive flashes of big time plays. But there's a lot of meh in between at times. Then there are things going on beyond his control. All in all we've reached the point where now that he does not look horrific we can only speculate what his ceiling ultimately may be. Franchise QB is a possibility. But elite QB one day? No one can say. But that level of play is where his physical limitations compared to his peers become more pronounced and where it seems like everything has to go right. The elite QB's make things work even when things are not going according to script or when the chips are down. Can he be that? If you don't think he can by mid-season next year then you take another swing on a QB. I don't think it's as complicated as some are making it out to be.

I can agree that was a huge momentum shift and on the road against a division rival with playoffs on the line little things like that can quickly spiral. We really need a damn kicker.

That picture gets me every time. Like George Costanza with the hairpiece. I agree with you though.

Nah let's leave him in the past no reunions here please it's for the best.

You've been here 4 months you have nothing to admit you were wrong about yet. So going around calling others thin skinned when as far as we know you've been on a milk carton through all the constant musical chairs we've been through with coaching and roster changes just in the last 5 years alone is disingenuous at best. Either way you're clearly thin skinned and a hypocrite. Hope you have a good day too big dog.

You literally pulled up ms word to make a running list if your bullies like a boomer. Clearly you're a wee bit sensitive too bud.

People are right wrong and dead wrong in sports all the time it happens no one has a crystal ball. Again. You digging up past seasons of opinions from yesteryear when you just joined in preseason of this year and conveniently have no past takes of your own to be held to account for is lame at best but you do you.

You were practically ready to fight people in the gameday thread yesterday maybe you need a break.

You specifically brought up the Packers defense. The post I made in response was entirely about the Packers defense. I have no clue where you're getting anything about the Vikings defense. If you're a Darnold believer good for you. Might as well pull a CamWhoaaCam and shamelessly hop on the bandwagon.

So they're roughly middle of the pack in passing but have a really good run D and they're opportunistic with turnovers. They've improved from last season no doubt but they have also given up a lot of points to both the Lions and Vikings this season both of which have formidable passing offenses. Yeah they're going to have their hands full in the playoffs.

Didn't Bryce Young have his coming out game last season against the Packers defense? Get real man.

We're desperate for even vague competitiveness and a hint of playoff hopes so Baker and Sam look like Brees and Brady to us but like I said above I'll be surprised if they go far in the playoffs. If you watch them play you can still see glimpses of the same QB's and how they will fair against stout teams with playoff experience will tell us where they really are.

Ultimately I think there's a good chance sooner or later we are going to see the full spectrum of both Mayfield and Darnold in the playoffs against much tougher competition. That is the good the bad and the ugly.

Might as well head to the Jets and Browns message boards and clown them because they let Darnold and Mayfield go.

You have no posting history to look back on through literally years of suckage but you want to be indignant toward others. I see nothing but a coward but you do you.

You've got a whole lot to say for someone that less than three weeks ago was upset your Bryce Young takes were getting blowback.

The question becomes will he want to stay here? If Thielen can be as useful as he has been here at his age then we should absolutely be scouring the FA WR list in the offseason. Certainly there's another veteran in there that can contribute similarly.

Don't even try this revisionist history slop. Sam Darnold showed more flashes than Baker Mayfield here but both were hot and cold at best and had some truly horrendous turnover filled games all circumstances aside. To act like it was only a few people who criticized them is ridiculous. Furthermore you joined a whole 4 months ago. You and I both know you've been here before that so what was your last account so we can dig up your takes on Sam and Baker? Don't hide now you opened this can of worms.

I agree with what you're saying in principle. We should have these conversations and they shouldn't be entirely slanted as negativity it's just a blunt assessment with long term expecations in mind because it involves the most consequential position on the roster like you said. None of us know Bryce's ceiling for sure but without a doubt next season has to be the big jump all circumstances aside. I hope to see it. If not then we keep looking.

Both Baker and Sam got humbled mightily here and that has gone a lonnnnng way for them in their overall development to this point. With how poorly managed we continue to be I don't see them being the same QB here. We ruin everything.

Oh wow I saw the score but didn't check on the actual game. Who the hell is Tanner McKee? 3 passing touchdowns between two jag backups. Overall I agree with you. And given what we invested in our OL in the offseason it is absolutely pitiful we have found ourselves maxing out at 14 points more often than not.