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They put the stamp on Teddy too tho.

Teddy is not a starting quarterback but the way our trio of head coach gm and owner have handled the public relations aspect with our last two quarterbacks leaves a lot to be desired in my eyes. You can certainly see they are learning on the fly with this.

In retrospect Carolina should have done it the right way two years ago and let things occur naturally when we started 0-2 with #1. We had a shot at his successor then and last year but we were concerned with team culture yet we proceeded to overpay at two luxury positions in what were ultimately very 2010 Richardsonesque moves despite what homers will tell you. We are where we are now because the Panthers just couldn't get out of their own way the same as past years. New owner same song and dance. We could get lucky and strike gold again like we did in 2011 but many fans lack the willingness to be that bold. That mentality is why someone like Bridgewater could even talked up as a franchise quarterback in the first place. It was always a tall order but he wasn't Cam Newton so for some that was enough. Now look at us. We tried to tell you.

There is no conclusion to make yet. Anyone writing him off already may as well just step away from the table because you will only spend the next several months wallowing in misery and for what? We know the Panthers MO by now. No sense even getting worked up over this. We basically drafted a new quarterback who already has NFL experience. Darnold is as much boom or bust as trading up for a rookie but with significantly less investment overall.

What optimism? The Panthers have 2 division wins since 2019 with Cam Newton Kyle Allen and Teddy Bridgewater. Most people seem to understand we are not a good football team. It's been a rough time for Charlotte sports but they can at least give us a team with some fight. We were not going to get that with a two yards and a cloud of dust passer like Bridgewater and if Darnold isn't it then it is on to the next.

https://www.panthers.com/video/throwback-sam-darnold-hits-robby-anderson-for-92-yard-td-in-2019 No clue how this will work out but at least the guy can sling it and Robby knows him as good as anyone.

Haha I don't know how some of you even survived 2010.

Goodness. Take it easy.

Trading for the Jets sloppy seconds wasn't a clear enough indicator?

It has been a rough couple of years so the apprehension is surely justified. However if Darnold can get the ball deep to DJ Moore I will feel much better. Words can hardly describe how demoralizing it was to see guys like Matt Ryan sling it up and down the field on the Panthers while we needed a prayer just to complete basic deep throws.

We are now officially 0 for 1 on replacing the former franchise quarterback. The 100 million dollar coach and the owner who hired him are now officially on the clock. They can no longer use the boogeyman Hurney as a shield for their decisions and fans should do the same.

Hopefully the few Bridgewater fans left have someone they can talk to about the recent events. Hang in there guys.

Well what's done is done. I'm in hope and pray for some good juju mode now. Change of scenery away from Adam Gase helped Robby Anderson but hey who knows. Still an upgrade over last years starter. There I said it.

What you got in that blunt?

Panthers went from a nice substantial chunk of cap space last offseason to trying to trade for scraps and hoping anyone will take Teddy off their hands within a year. Brutal.

BPA within reason but our depth in the offense is awful so screaming for defense after watching our offense being outscored by teams drafting before us doesn't jive. We have many jags along the offensive line who could quickly become starters if things go south. We have one elite highly paid running back and nothing but another big question mark behind him on the depth chart yet again...deja vu. We signed a new tight end but who is behind him other than stone hands Ian Thompson? We also lost Samuel. This offense needs more redzone weapons.

This you? https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/168984-what-was-the-boldest-move-this-franchise-has-made/?do=findComment&comment=5429754

We could spend the whole draft on o line and be lucky to get 1 or 2 above average starters. It's still a crapshoot as much as looking for a qb don't kid yourself that's why so many ol who manage to hit free agency are getting paid crazy money now too particularly tackles.

Desperation. It's what happens when you pay a backup quarterback starter money the same year you move on from a former franchise player and end up with egg on your face.

So looking at the line and needs within the next season or two we could be looking at left tackle center guard depth and possibly right tackle because we don't know how it will play out with Moton. Drafting a tackle at 8 with the current outlook is akin to putting a bandaid on a stab wound. Either this or next year no matter what we do some poor qb is going to be making chicken salad out of chicken poo.

Every season huddlers pick their corners on which qb they are going to love or hate and never change that viewpoint. More often than not though it is based on fan allegiance and most are dreadfully wrong. What's your take on Mond? He has some flaws but we are relegated to sifting through scraps at this point in time so if he is sitting there in the second do you pass? If we can trade down or get a premier tackle or even Pitts at 8 if the other qb's are off the board I think Mond has to be under significant consideration.

I hear you but I just have doubts we end up with that high of a pick again. We blew it two years in a row. 2019 we lost what half a dozen games in a row and couldn't sniff a top 5 pick? Last year we had the 3rd about locked up and Plaxico'd ourselves in the foot beating a hapless WFT. My feeling is with Teddy we will again be just mediocre enough to miss the top 10.

Can't pay everyone. This just makes me want Pitts even more if no qb is available at 8. With how expensive offensive weapons and quarterbacks are getting in general and the likelihood of us not returning to a top 10 pick anytime soon I cannot stomach drafting a tackle 8th overall rn. Get us another weapon now if we can't get the signal caller.

This sums up how I feel. The draft is fairly deep for offensive line help as it is. Our offense had it's best years recently with elite te play. The top teams in the nfl have that also in Tampa and KC. Not to mention we have upcoming contracts and priorities to consider on who to sign on both sides of the ball in the next season or two like DJ Moore so drafting another young dominant offensive weapon on a rookie contract is a big plus.

It's not an either or in the modern nfl. Offenses have evolved so much that even the best quarterbacks aren't slinging it on a rope between multiple defenders all the time. You see plenty of dump offs and screens from strong arm qb's and times where they are just letting things flow. It isn't about just taking risks but having the ability and knowing when it is time to nut up and take over when the win is within grasp. That is the difference between a truly elite modern quarterback and a game manager who will opt for a short pass on 4th and long with the game on the line. Which would you rather have leading your team?