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To be clear just watching football and actively becoming a fan of another team and reengaging with that are two different things. I was referring to the latter. And that's personally something I'll never do. Because I've seen this league actively try to destroy us.

You'll get no argument out of me regarding your disappointment in Legette. But there's no need to be dishonest with one another about Thielen. And no matter what he said about Bryce publicly on his way out he made it crystal clear he wanted to play with a rookie QB in McCarthy very badly.

Trading the best WR in many years for a bust QB will go down as one of the biggest blunders ever sadly.

Hurney was horrendous. He was great in the first round that's it. Any other round and FA was largely trash. But we were still immensely more competitive with him more consistently than the jabronis we've had in the front office the last few years. That's because when he hit in the first he hit on cornerstone talent. We can't do that. Not even close.

They're arguing sunk cost. But you're right. This stink won't wash off for a long time. Best thing we can do is pull the plug for good and soon. These dreams of tanking getting the first pick and backing our way into another generational alpha QB are just that.

As much as I like Brown. Sooner or later he's going to just tune out same as anyone else. These guys are all human. Look at Jaycee. Acrobatic interception and what was his reward? What is the reward for anyone on defense to give a herculean effort? We can't tank without losing the locker room. It will get very ugly. The QB room needs a change.

Horn should be getting playing time regardless now. Blown out by the Jags is confirmation this is nothing but a developmental season.

Brother Adam Thielen would have had passes sailing over his head or out of bounds too. In fact he probably would have pulled another hamstring trying to haul in one of those errant throws.

That moment happened a long time ago. And as far as Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf goes. At least they had the decency to be horrendous and just quit so everyone could move on. Imagine three years of either of those two.

The best thing anyone here can do is NOT give the NFL money and viewership.

And OP has been the poster boy for purity here routinely bashing others. Complete joke.

You OP saca whoever can go bandwagon like fickle children if it makes you feel better. Nobody has to compliment you for it either.

Yeah just out of touch billionaire delusions. It's plainly evident that everything he has done since cutting Cam Newton has been to try and change the identity of the team. He doesn't want that type of personality to be the face of the team. It's why he rejected Stroud who had parallels with Cam and made Bryce Young his savior. Bryce Young is a polar opposite to anything of that. You know it's bad when even Jerry Richardson had better judgment. That's BAD.

Any of these teams mentioned have their own fan communities. You're welcome to take your fandom there. We don't need you.

Everything with this ownership is on the level of some Curb Your Enthusiasm cringe in peak form.

Joe Person is largely awful but I will give him credit he did go there and bluntly ask Canales about that moment of visible frustration between him and Bryce and Canales shot him down. It amuses me he wants to keep that in house but there isn't any house to speak of anyways. We are not a serious franchise. Might as well put it out there in the open. We didn't take a flier on this kid in the late rounds. We traded a ransom for him. He doesn't need protecting.

Canales presser:

I agree about his coaching style and personality. The youth pastor thing needs to go. It will not work with this franchise. It also certainly stings that Canales just got throttled by Liam Coen who was his replacement in Tampa Bay last year. The same guy who also got roasted for that cringe attempt at doing a Duval chant. We'll know who Canales really is very soon regardless. He's made his own bed. And Morgan should not get a pass in any way shape or form either. He deserves all the smoke too.

The clock going down to zero thing happened his rookie year with Reich too did it not? Canales could very well end up another trash hire. But the same issues have been prevalent with now two coaching staffs in three years. There are multiple problems facing this franchise. But they all revolve around coddling our #1 pick.

Apparently the Colts have an outspokenly meddling owner but they still managed to throttle the Dolphins with Daniel Jones at QB.

The Panthers need to focus way way way less on marketing and image for these players and infinitely more on them actually developing into anything resembling a good player on the football field.

If we were a competent organization the decision would have been made right then and there to take Stroud.

I told ya'll not to be so eager to pile on Caleb Williams and the Bears. We got our own problems.

Body language of someone who has had no motivation to improve his game. Third year and he still hasn't even tried to hit the gym to even attempt to compensate for being one of the smallest QB's in the league. Your "consensus #1 pick"