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From my what I have seen the overwhelming majority of people who are considering the notion a possibility don't really want to see it happen but are considering so for a number of reasons. Most importantly availability. Secondly even when he plays the last few seasons he has been red hot or ice cold. Then there is the subject of his defense which to say the least leaves a lot to be desired. Then there is the image of Ball inactive laughing it up on the sideline (while our team was getting the doors blown off) with previous busts who are now relegated to hanging on by a thread in the g league. I think we should be able to recognize with the team going out of their way to put a very strong emphasis on culture and leadership with the conclusion of this years draft that they expect LaMelo to lead the way this upcoming season and that begins with making significant strides and trending in a positive direction in the aforementioned aspects above. It just has to happen.

It's an interesting topic of conversation as sports evolves. I think ultimately it would lead to a number of small market franchises folding though. Especially in the NBA where there are so many bad teams that have been bad for years and years in some cases already. But as it stands I think athlete pay draft or no draft aside has reached a point where we can and should realistically ask should they make that much compared to the average person. Now college athletes is a different conversation but even that reaches a breaking point. But we could go down the rabbit hole on this even further into overall entertainment and talk about actors making absurd sums too. In the end I think in sports the powers that be won't allow these changes to even be considered because it opens the door for so many other variables. But who knows how long sports like football will realistically be around after people like us pass on. We're only just now learning about things like CTE which the league and the sport in general will only be able to run away from for so long. As far as the NBA goes my understanding is viewership has been steadily going down for a number of reasons but one crucial aspect is key players missing so many games. The NBA has to figure that out regardless. Especially when considering fans who pay to see these athletes compete in person. But hey I guess let's just try to appreciate what we've got while it still exists in this form eh?

Conceptually it's worth pondering if there are alternatives that could line up with current times. Alternatively on the flip side it opens a very real conversation about newer generations who are making in many cases drastically more money than previous generations of basketball football and baseball players being entitled. For me I'd say to even begin to entertain the notion of this then average pay should go down minimum 75% across the board. See how folks feel about the draft when they're only making WNBA money.

$41 million and can't even show up like every other rookie is and has been doing? Terrible look.

So far jokes aside I like the draft for us. I can understand being apprehensive but the hand wringing considering how comically bad our locker room has been just doesn't line up. Would you rather be drafting more guys like James Bouknight?

As someone who would have honestly preferred Bailey I think he is getting overhyped by people who are I'm just being honest here-acting like complete Stans. I've seen people acting like they're this kids momma going hard for him on social media. He made the choice to opt for the predraft path that he took and that hurt his stock. Regardless Kon and Ace will be connected for a bit but I can't fault the Hornets for not electing to add another possible malcontent to the locker room. This culture has to change. Whether this actually works is the question. But I'm glad we are trying. We'll see.

As others have said it's both. One creates the other. But it also takes time sometimes years. And there have been teams lately with new car smell coaching staffs that looked like they were putting it together quickly but things came crashing back down to Earth. Sustainability is the key. For that to happen the meddling of our owners has to stop and they cannot be tempted to return to their ways over any bump in the road either.

This thread is very reminiscent of Scoot Henderson vs Brandon Miller.

Mark Williams traded to the Suns for the 29th pick tonight and a 2029 first. I guess I'll take it considering he was gone one way or another anyways. He didn't deserve how L.A. did him with that physical. Good luck to him. Glad we moved on.

TiFS1gHuf6pdh4mB.mp4 I see an all around competitive playmaker on both ends here. One could argue there was higher upside on the board but none of us can know what the future holds. I'll give him the chance to prove himself but I'm not mad about this pick either he will be an immediate contributor IMO.

We drafted Kon. Underwhelming but I guess we'll see. Someone sell me on this kid.

Just for the sake of clarity here's the results of the Tepper's "playing" with their new toy. That is what you're carrying water for. Maybe they'll let you be their official spokesman if you brownnose a little bit more though.

Yeah I've heard about the declined visits. Ultimately I think that's just young guys being immature but it ultimately doesn't amount to anything because odds are likely even if it isn't the Hornets he's going to a team that isn't in a great situation regardless. And at the end of the day money talks. But to be clear I'm open to different options. I just don't want another raw long term project.

At this point I just want someone that can bring some juice and energy. I'll take a young playmaker with an ego who can back it up production wise on the basketball court over the project player duds we've been drafting.

Draft day is upon us.... Which bust we drafting tonight boys?

The division is most certainly wide open. The Bucs are a problem but Baker Mayfield is and will remain his own worst enemy it's a matter of when not if he has a bad game or even a stretch of bad games. As far as the Panthers they have done an admirable job of trying to address needs as best they can without pulling a Scott Fitterer and getting desperate which has only made us worse off in the past. On the Bryce subject all anyone can really say at this point is we just have to wait and see. This is the year and despite what the Panthers may say publicly doubling down and going all in on WR is as good as any sign anyone should need that they expect Bryce Young to have a very productive and convincing season. The pieces are in place. They aren't perfect but nothing ever will be. Regardless there's honestly no excuse for this staff and this team not to be able to compete in this iteration of the NFC South. Also just want to say this because I can say the hyper defensive posts already being made in here and it's probably going to be a season with highs and lows again but hopefully more highs for sure. But just because there is dialogue about a position group or a player that challenges your preconceived notions or makes you uncomfortable does not make it "hate" or "anti" this player or that player. For some people who talk a lot about nuance you would think this wouldn't need to be stated but that's where we're at.

It's a combination of factors. I think the biggest being the perception of our franchise as a whole. And while I do think there is an entitlement attitude with some of the newer generations of players nowadays I can't really blame any of them for not wanting to come in just to play second fiddle to an albeit clearly talented player in LaMelo Ball but also at the same time let's just put all our cards on the table here he is also extremely hot and cold and lackluster at best on the defensive end. And that's when he's actually available to play which isn't often anymore. He's somehow averaged less playing time than even Gordon Hayward the last few years. While I can appreciate your stance and not wanting to give up on him. We're heading into year 6 broski. Enough is enough.

With rumors swirling that multiple lottery picks refuse to workout for the Hornets and one directly stated he doesn't want to play with LaMelo Ball it's hard out here to be a damn Hornets fan. But at the end of the day even though this franchise has plenty of blame LaMelo Ball himself has been immature time and time again and seemingly spends more time getting terrible tattoos than honing his craft that actually pays him hundreds of millions of dollars.

Slow drivers on 2 lane roads especially can create dangerous circumstances. And I definitely get the frustration. At the same time far too many people nowadays are demented behind the wheel. I mean you can be running 10 over and still some idiot will be riding your bumper. And where I live even in residential areas people speed. Unless there are heavy speed bumps they just barrel right over them. Truth be told Americans on the roads are the worst beings you'll ever encounter on this planet. Sadly not an exaggeration.

You yourself finally showed up here after the first two games all but waving the white flag so don't hurt yourself getting down off that high horse my friend. And as far as throwing deep goes while he showed improvement we are still waiting and wanting to see that consistently and early in the season when we are playing for playoff position. And let's just be completely clear here. We've selected first round wide receivers in back to back drafts including an 8th overall pick in order to give ourselves the best possible look at Bryce as a passer. The FO despite their faults are at least trying.

I can't speak for others but yes I read it. The conclusions are based heavily around the use of the statistical metric DYAR created by football outsiders and used by ESPN for this article. It only includes players whose production began in 2000. But excluding HOF running backs who produced BIG in an iteration of the NFL that was not yet catered to making things much easier for offenses in order for them to prop up more recent candidates is rather absurd and seems like just playing favorites regardless of where one might fall on their opinion of the use of the metric in question.

Injury prone Christian McCaffrey but no LaDainian Tomlinson? This is what happens when any jabroni can call themselves a sports analyst now.

I agree with you sir. Let's hope Canales is learning.

I mean we haven't had a winning season in going on 8 years we have had the worst win percentage in all of sports the last few years and we spent most of last summer arguing with each other on whether to be hyped or cautiously optimistic. To the point he was trying to moderate the discourse all throughout training camp. The staff then decided to hold the starters out of preseason until the very end and we started off the season with two of the ugliest losses in franchise history. Yet apparently in his mind the problem is....the fans who are justifiably apprehensive to buy the hype again before seeing some consistency in actual games? I don't see anything remotely unreasonable about it and it certainly doesn't make anyone any less of a fan or inferior to someone else unless that someone is mentally ill.