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JJ was a splash hire some understandably wanted us to make. I would have been on board with it. But it was going to be a dicey pairing given everything going on with this franchise and the need particularly for someone to come in and clean up not only the pitiful culture but reign in some of the young roster that is prone to distractions. That would have either gone very well or very bad with JJ you have to be realistic about that. This isn't a hire that is going to wow people but who knows it could be what we need. I'll give him a chance. I also want to see the contract details and how much we gave him.

If our offense and the general team vibe is dogwater in preseason again we should all bring out the torches.

If you're getting burned out from eviscerating each other over Bryce Young come on over to the Hornets section and talk some poo there. 985f79a7-9ef7-4dc5-9a8f-87afdbbfee36.mp4

Damn. If that's true about Atkinson and trying to force assistants on him that alters my view of him some. Still a dick move what he did but we played ourselves. But that ties into what we've already known about this franchise under Jordan. We didn't want to pay a coach what he's worth. It's crazy because it's such a 180 from the Panthers who will pay anything and still suck. But at least Tepper is willing to open the piggy bank. If these two guys who are the new owners continue with this way of operating we are pretty much doomed.

Kirk Cousins can go fug himself. I can't wait to see him throw some passes short of the sticks while the game is on the line with the Falcons.

I love them because Panthers but our social media team sometimes has the awareness of a brick. Meanwhile opposing secondaries we will be facing are watching that like:

Not worried about history with numbers. Funchess like KB could have been a very solid receiver at minimum. They didn't want it. Legette seems hungry. Just get this man the ball and let him work. On another note. It is good to see a TE with legit receiving potential with a jersey number in the 80's again.

I'm not going to find a reason to be negative about them giving back. Good for these students. Perhaps Nicole should have led with the work they are doing to give back to the local community instead of concerts when asked what they are most proud of so far.

Much has been said about ACL injuries out of college basically being NBD. You still have to be extra cautious given your investment we didn’t take a late round flier on Brooks we drafted him high. This is the drawback. We can easily pickup another back or two after cuts. But this talk of carrying 5 RB's like we're playing 90's football is not helping my confidence in the passing offense for 2024.

Pretty heavy language to describe simply asking the starting QB to play like a #1 overall pick. You'd think we drafted him in the 7th round. Looking at your posts about him I'm guessing you're a Bama fan.

My thing is. I distinctly remember games where even despite our OL woes we were running the ball well enough. But the passing game was abysmal. Yes we gave up a lot of sacks but we still left many passing plays and opportunities on the field. Let's hope Canales has some solid plans to restore a balanced offense.

Indeed. And we are and have added weapons and protection for Bryce. Honestly in such a short time this is the most we've done in years for any QB. Bryce Young has been setup nicely. He's got to produce now.

He's 28 so sounds like a stopgap while the rookie we drafted rehabs and gets up to game speed. Certainly don't want to rush that. Penny was a pretty decent fantasy get in a pinch last year. He can produce but he's missed some time. Is he better than Sanders? Probably. We certainly seem to be very committed to a strong running game. Good thing to have for any QB. But if we are going to start scoring points we have to sling the rock when it counts too.

To the Panthers the combine didn't matter apparently they already had their mind made up. Not to mention people had seen his pro day and the deep passing concerns showed up there just as it had been at Bama (he had the worst deep ball by far between him Mac Jones Tua and Jalen Hurts). Most people agree he and his camp engaged in deception about his actual playing weight and not throwing at the combine was a strategic move. Whether or not someone feels that raises to the level of malicious is a personal opinion I guess. But knowing it got him drafted first overall and then he went on to have one of the worst passing seasons ever despite the circumstances does not necessarily put his actions before draft night in a positive light. It also does not help matters that the GM who risked it all to draft him and lost his job in the process talked about Bryce Young getting into the weight room and then Bryce Young shows up this month looking every bit exactly the same. All of this puts even more pressure on Bryce Young in his second season. Hopefully he rises to the occasion. If not this is going to go down as one of the most cautionary draft stories in many years. Stay tuned.

Well at least we got the first zinger about Bryce haters out of the way on the first page. Folks here also groaned about Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold haters too. We actually looked significantly worse after Reich was fired. That shutout loss to the Jaguars missing their starting QB is one of the worst I've seen in a long time. And that's saying something for our Panthers. People can want to protect him from meanies online but there are still 17 games to be played and 16 games worth of tape on him that plenty of defenders are waiting to pounce on. I can assure they don't give a damn about haters.

It will not require him moving mountains. But it will require standards that have applied to all first overall pick QB's over the years. Basic requirements: -Improve his footwork. -Display at minimum an above average arm compared to his peers. -Establish an undisputed consistent deep ball connection. -Finish the season no less than top 12-15 in most statistical passing categories. Particularly yards per pass attempt. All of this is doable with the additions we've made and with Canales on board. Even Kyle Allen looked competent for more than one single game. If not. First round QB in 2025.

Since you want to poo posts remotely critical of him months later why don't you return and own up to your thread?

I can appreciate the sentiment. But let's see the results on the field and then begin celebrating.

The worst thing that can happen to this franchise right now is accepting and moving forward with QB play that is "just good enough" to compete. In a league that is so absurdly skewed toward offense and passing the ball specifically you either acquire a dynamic passer or you keep looking until you do. Bryce is a nice guy his family seem like very nice people but we had the chance and did not pick the right QB and it really doesn't even matter anymore who is to blame. All that needs to happen is we accept reality. Even if Bryce Young looks better this year which will be roughly average or a Teddy Bridgewater if you will we still need to add another QB early in next years draft. The only way this shouldn't happen is if by some miracle Bryce Young has a season like CJ Stroud had as a rookie. But no amount of hopium is going to make the odds of that happening higher than 10%.

Let's hope to keep that kind of juju out of the mix this go around. I'm trying to be optimistic here lol.

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It is common overall certainly. But. None of those owners you listed own a team that they have been heavily involved in behind the scenes that currently holds the worst win percentage in all of professional sports. Also none of them that I know of make it a point to stop in local places in the city the team is based multiple times to directly address any vague criticisms. All this after an impromptu one on one interview where Nicole praised the best thing they've experienced with the Panthers is selling concert tickets. They bring this stuff on themselves. Optics wise it would be smart to just fall back and let the team president be the face.

Definitely. I'd like to see a QB3 with some actual potential in the event of unforseen circumstances as it's a 17 game season and since winning football games is kinda ya know the goal. But I get the sense we will see a relatively boring young QB that will not make any waves at all.

Remember when Bryce Young was a "mini Mahomes" in the making? Now he needs elite weapons across the board lol. Gotta love being a Panthers fan.

I'll be patiently waiting to see what OL additions we snatch off the waiver wire.