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https://x.com/josephperson/status/1786056064254837242 https://x.com/InsideTheLeague/status/1786771136748937429 As I said to another poster most changes have been limited to the pro personnel side. Last year around this time we fired the director and assistant director of pro scouting and a senior personnel executive "retired". Beyond that over the last few years or so we have moved around or promoted some people here and there in the college scouting dept but there have been no major firings or wholesale changes on that side of the operation. Which some here could and would rightfully argue is long overdue given that our drafts have been either mediocre or awful for a long time now.

Icege should inquire to the Panthers about being a paid spokesman. There is a whole world of middle ground between being a miserable fan who probably wants the team to suck and basically being an unpaid sycophant. The overwhelming majority of people are rational and want the team to succeed. However that does not mean they are giving ownership and the front office any benefit of the doubt because that has not been earned in any capacity to this point. That's life.

Due diligence as they should. Keep your options open. I imagine they'll find out about his film study habits too.

What is even going on in that interview? Bizarre all around. But he is only 21 years old. Some team is going to take a chance on his talent. He definitely will need to go to the right situation with a strong coaching foundation though.

Panthers front office might as well start posting up in local nursing homes at this point. Maybe there's a few old timers around with some juice left in the tank. Or you know they could just stop drafting like utter dogshit.

Where was Dan's right hand man when he was trading up for an RB with a torn ACL?

If we do it would be basically league minimum I assume. At this point I would rather just draft an RB in the later rounds or scoop up one of the undrafted backs that will assuredly be available and have potential.

The discussion is about how the fans perceive our moves versus what most talking heads think. I've lost count how many times the Panthers fanbase has thought we had a solid to great offseason only for the team to once again faceplant. That was the context I was referring to.

BPA for the Panthers is the best prospect on their boards lined up with their most pressing needs in order of importance as opposed to simply forcing a pick to the point of reaching because they are in love with a particular prospect. The latter is what got Fitterer in trouble on top of constantly thinking he was outsmarting everyone else in the building. Unfortunately Dan Morgan has already pulled one of those moves with Jonathan Brooks. Very hard lesson learned hopefully. If not we are unequivocally doomed.

Actually being worse seems highly unlikely. Only improving marginally however is a very real possibility with this franchise. If you know the Panthers in and out then you know this. How many offseasons have we "won" in the past? Can't blame anyone for wanting to see results first. That's just the reputation that has been created under this ownership.

I appreciate his candor. Lots to prove this season for a number of guys including our QB. You see what you've got this season and go from there. Don't overthink it. We can't draft to save our lives in the second round anyways. BPA at 8 and keep it moving.

Ian Thomas is officially gone and playing for another team!?

Even if he had taken PED's is he or anyone else in such a scenario with potentially tens of millions of dollars at stake actually going to crumble and admit that publicly to a reporter weeks before the draft?

It sounds like we did more than just kick the tires for DK and Tee. We weren't window shopping we were looking to buy. But I really wish we could gain some level of competency in drafting. Maybe it will happen. We'll see.

Pro scouting yes. College scouting has not had major changes.

To be clear the Bengals front office are certifiably insane they were assuredly asking for more than the DK Metcalf compensation.

Anyone with functioning brain cells knew Tee Higgins wasn't going anywhere for less than a haul. If we were actually pursuing him it shows we haven't learned and it also shows the FO knows full well they suck balls at drafting.

Well if they do draft him maybe it will end up being a "blind squirrel finds a nut" moment for our front office. But I won't hold my breath.

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Oh yeah we've got our share of homers and shoe shiners here no doubt. The nontoxic ones mean no harm though and in general I respect their resolve. There are others that are insufferable though. Anywho there was a time when I tried to give our FO the benefit of the doubt on draft night but I'm way beyond that. If we make a solid pick and it's not a reach and is in the BPA mold I can begin to get on board and at least find something to be positive about. But so far Morgan's track record is iffy at best. If we start picking projects and reaching this place should be justifiably talking cold hard poo about the FO. We'll see.

My thing with the Panthers is we keep taking half measures in addressing our strikingly obvious suckitude. Fired Ron Rivera and kept Marty Hurney. Fired Matt Rhule and kept Scott Fitterer instead of cleaning house. Fired Fitterer and kept all the Scouts and promoted Dan Morgan. Now we've kicked the can with Evero. Honestly we should have gone with a clean slate at defensive coordinator. I think it was best for both parties. We'll see if the Panthers decision on that continues down the same path. But unfortunately there's one constant that remains from all that I just mentioned. The Tepper's.

We've told ourselves things like this many times over the years. In this instance I can safely say there's a 99% chance that isn't the case. We will assuredly be throwing another dart at wide receiver in the upcoming draft.

Evero was very high on him.

Well this is the same scouting staff basically entirely intact from when Scott Fitterer was stinking up the place. So looks like they've found their guy!