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Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft
Icege replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Sims has to do a little outrage marketing to make the engagement numbers go vroom, but there's been a few analysts that have commented on how Walker is ultimately going to be depending on whomever drafts him to properly develop him. Whether that's starting him off of as a rotational edge guy on obvious passing downs or settling him at ILB will be up to whoever ends up with him. A lot of folks like to point out Isaiah Simmons, and as much as I like Isaiah as a Clemson fan he's not the guy that Jalon Walker is between the ears (this isn't to say Isaiah isn't bright, but didn't seem to breathe football like Jalon does). The kid's got a shot; he's just going to need it somewhere that's going to aim first before firing him off. -
Evero runs Vic Fangio's scheme and leans heavily on cover 4 with disguised coverages. It is not predominantly cover-2 as suggested. This means that the box safety is going to likely be covering 1/4th as opposed to 1/2 of the field. Whomever the team brings in to be the boundary safety (unless they stay with Demani) is going to be covering the 1/2 part. Though with Evero's scheme, that box safety can also be one of the three underneath coverage guys depending on how they've got it disguised prior to the snap.
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It is Quiet...Too Quiet: Thanks Dilworth Neighborhood Grille?
Icege replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Translation: He hates Bryce Young for not being Cam Newton and hates David Tepper since he was the owner at the time. Justifies it to himself by claiming that Tepper is too feeble and was intimidated by Cam's outspokenness. I have no idea why that would be the case with Cam but not with Eric Reid who was signed by the Panthers while being blackballed for kneeling with Kaepernick. Considering Cam was cut in 2018 and Reid was signed in 2018, the timeline ain't timelining. -
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the team signed a top-10 player at their position without resetting the market for the position group like they did with Horn (only for it to be reset again soon after). Took a historically bad run defense and added a box safety that was elite in run defense and 21st in rushing the passer. It's a massive upgrade from Jordan Fuller. Who would they have preferred instead? Definitely need to get a boundary safety for Evero's scheme unless they're depending on Demani.
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Panthers Prospect Visits/Meetings (Final Update-4/22)
Icege replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nailed it! Chiefs got #10 overall (and selected Mahomes) and sent the Bills #27, #91, and a 2018 first-rounder (ended up being #18) to pick the QB that has kept them out of the Super Bowl. Tbf to the Bills tho, they turned those picks into Tre'Davious White, Dion Dawkins, Tremaine Edmunds, and Siran Neal. Three out of four hits ain't bad at all, but that one for one for KC... ooh wee mayne. -
The only thing giving me pause in locking Graham to Jacksonville is that they took both LSU DTs in last year's draft (Maason Smith in the second, Jordan Jefferson in the fourth). Might be more palatable for them to go TE vs. DT since Strange was a second-rounder in 2023 and after two seasons hasn't cracked 500yds total. Membou just makes too much sense though given their need at RT and him being a mammoth. I think their board might go Membou, Warren, Graham based on the current roster. They're in a decent position to trade back if it isn't too far for their liking.
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He's tight with Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, and Jose Cuervo.
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Both currently have abysmal TE rooms. JAX: Hunter Long, Brenton Strange, Johnny Mundt, Shawn Bowman, Patrick Murtagh NYJ: Jeremy Ruckert, Zack Kuntz, Neal Johnson, Stone Smartt JAX needs an RT like you said though... could go with the big boy in Membou to play across from Walker Little. Positional value is there which would keep the Khans happy as well. I think on the off-chance that the Jags trade with Chicago should they want to jump LV for Jeanty that they'd probably sit pretty at #10 and scoop him. I'm still leaning towards the Jets unless Graham is still on the board. Shoot... I wouldn't be too upset with the Panthers trading back and letting another team (Indy?) take him at #8 (especially if they land Ez wherever they land :3)
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Panthers Prospect Visits/Meetings (Final Update-4/22)
Icege replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Some similar trades that have taken place: 2019 - PIT trades #20, #52, and a 2020 third-round pick to DEN for #10 to select Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 2021 - CHI trades #20, 2022 first-rounder, 2021 fifth-rounder, and a 2022 fourth-rounder to NYG for #11 to select Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State 2022 - NO trades #18, #101, #237, 2023 first-round pick, and 2024 second-round pick to PHI for #16, #19, and #194. They then traded #16, #98, and #120 to WAS to move up to #11 and select Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (WAS took Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State at #16) -
This has got me curious... especially since we've been hearing that ~500yds number as a possible indicator of success for a drafted WR. brb, compiling data that nobody but me and other people with an unhealthy football obsession might be interested in T_T
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I don't think Warren makes it passed the Jets, myself. And that's if he makes it passed the Jags.
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He went to the Jets last year. Cowgirls drafted Tyler Guyton to be their LT in the 1st afterwards. Could still be in the market tho like you said. Guyton had some rookie struggles and if they think they have somebody with higher upside available...
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Definitely need to start planning now for life without TMo, but I don't know if the team is going to have somebody just as good on the roster. I like BC, but he's on a 1yr deal. Got a feeling we might see that 2nd round pick used on an OT if there's a decent one still available.
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Agreed. Especially an edge that can kick inside and play the 3-tech and/or an edge that can reliably drop back into coverage as well. Those rush packages would have the opposing offensive line in absolute fits.
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Link to the full mock Panthers' selections: 1.8 - Jalon Walker, LB/EDGE, Georgia 2.57 - TJ Sanders, DT, South Carolina 3.74 - Jack Bech, WR, TCU 4.111 - Billy Bowman Jr, S, Oklahoma 4.114 - Dorian Strong, CB, Virginia Tech 5.140 - Demetrius Knight Jr, LB, South Carolina 5.146 - Caleb Rogers, G, Texas Tech 5.163 - Jarquez Hunter, RB, Auburn 7.230 - Maxen Hook, S, Toledo
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I think that they sit tight at #3. Titans seem to be in love with Ward, which means they'll get either Hunter or Carter. If the Browns go Hunter, Carter still helps them out by giving them not just a deeper pass rush but more flexibility in the budget. 2025 Brian Burns - $29.75M Kayvon Thibodeaux - ~$10M 2026 Brian Burns - $30.75M Kayvon Thibodeaux - Bonus option? 2027 Brian Burns - $32.5M ($14M dead cap if cut) 2028 Brian Burns - $32.5M ($7M dead cap if cut) Drafting Carter would allow them to move Thibodeaux if they can't keep him or get out from under Burns' contract in 2027 if they decide to work out a substantial second deal for Thibodeaux.
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REPORT: Panthers open to trading down from #8
Icege replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
1. Trade back and acquire additional draft capital 2. Draft Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College 3. ??? 4. SUPERB OWL- 104 replies
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I can't even begin to imagine what you have going on in your life that makes you such a miserable little prick on a daily basis. It most certainly isn't Panthers' football, but I hope it gets better for you.
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Tyler Warren ranked as their #8 overall player? Looks like they're high on Shemar Stewart and Mykel Williams as well, though I can see them getting the nod over Ez + JPJ because the former have clear bull rushes and whether or not the latter can convert speed-to-power vs. grown men playing OT in the NFL we'll just have to wait and see. Glad to see JT round out the top 8. Surprised that they've got Swinson and Powell-Ryland as low as they do. One of these guys is going to be competing at FS for the Panthers.
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Let's gooooooooooooooooooooo I always enjoy comparing my assessments with Brugler and team's. It's especially fun to go back and check back out past draft picks' profiles.
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Damn! Sucks to see Sam go, but the Nick Scott signing makes more sense now seeing that we see Sam is getting $500k more to head to SF. I think he was hoping to get $2.5M - $3M but best he could get was $1.5M.
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After looking at the Panthers' mock, I might need to go to the doctor in 4 hours for... reasons...
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gawd dayum 6'9" is a red zone target if he's got the goods
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Thank goodness I felt like I was crazy because that flaw LEPT off of the screen to me but nobody was even talking about it. Going to watch some freshman + sophomore tape again this week along with both Texas games. Something undeniable about Williams is that his presence was felt in some of Georgia's bigger games.