tukafan21

LOLOL "big body possession receivers who skip agility and quickness drills" I love when people just announce to everyone that they have no idea who T-Mac is as a player

You're absolutely crazy if you think his play this year would have been good enough to earn a contract extension to be our starter next year if he was heading into free agency. I'm not denying that he improved, and I've said numerous times that while I don't believe in him as a high quality starter, I am rooting for him because it would be better for our franchise if he proved me wrong. You seem to think people want him to fail just so they can be correct on him, but if that's the case, why do people like me time and time again say they want to be proven wrong? But I'm still able to objectively look at his game and what he did and see that it was at best, average QB play. But because of just how bad he was before that, people seem to think he was playing at an MVP level of quality or something, it's mind boggling how people are SOOOOOOOO convinced that he's already proven he can be our franchise QB.

No, this is a fallacy born out of the comparison of Bryce's final 2 months compared to his first season and a half. The ONLY reason he has "earned" or "deserves" to be the starter next year, is because we traded away a haul to take him at #1 and he's still on his rookie deal. If Bryce was on his last year of his deal, what he did over the last 2 months, while an improvement, wouldn't have been enough to earn him a new contract next year. If you can't separate those things, then it's a you problem. I've said numerous times that he significantly improved this year and I no longer think he's the biggest bust in NFL history, but he only played well enough to get back to my initial projection of him, as about the 25th best QB in the league, a gap starter who will bounce around every couple years, not a franchise QB that can lead you to yearly contention. In regards to your "why are we talking about stats" question, well that's just the easy way to talk about a player on message boards, especially for people who don't have access to all the game film and have the time to cut together videos to show why they think certain things about a player, this is a message board, not an actual NFL front office.

I don’t mean from a history standpoint, but from an immediate news standpoint. It would be a viral moment that would 100% take the immediate attention away from the 3-Peat, the league wouldn’t want it and Kelce wouldn’t do that to his teammates.

You do realize that would be the NFL's worst nightmare, right? If KC wins and 3-peats, that's major league history and sparks a sincere debate of Mahomes vs Brady for GOAT already. If Kelce were to propose on the podium, it would be the only thing anyone is talking about, it would overshadow one of the biggest moments in NFL history. Beyond the NFL not wanting that, Kelce is too good of a guy and teammate to do that to the rest of the Chiefs, he's not dumb, he'd know how much it would overshadow what they did on the field.

Everyone is going to call me bias because of all the T-Mac stuff, but if by looking for a Tucker you mean someone with a monster leg, then take a look at Arizona's kicker Tyler Loop. Not sure I've ever seen a college kicker with the leg that he has, think he hit a 50 yarder this year that went over the net. I'm not saying he's a can't miss kicking prospect of course, but his leg really is next level crazy. He set a school record this year hitting a 62 yarder too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlLI8ibhPrI

If that's your fear, then you shouldn't be looking at the 8th pick as needing to hit a home run as much as making sure you don't strike out. It's why I don't like taking those raw pass rushers who might have a massive ceiling, but come with a sizable risk as well. You take the shot on those type of prospects when you have less holes to fill and taking the chance at hitting the home rum makes more sense. But when you can't miss, sometimes taking a lower ceiling but a much higher floor is the way to go. That's why my Top and very clear 3 wants are easy, T-Mac, Graham, and Johnson, as I think all 3 have star potential, but they also are the safest picks in the draft to me, at worst they're all long term starters. If we can't get one of them, I like trading down to acquire more picks as the rest of the top of the draft seems like more potential than sure thing, rather get more picks and still a good player by trading into the 12-15 range.

I think the Saints might be playing the long game right now and are close to already punting on next season. Hire a questionable choice for HC, cut Carr and a few other big contracts to eat the cap hits this year and start trying to get them back on track with their years of pushing cap hits into the future. Completely suck next year because of it all, get the #1 pick and bring franchise favorite Archie's grandson into town as the #1 pick, which also should make them the most attractive HC destination next year for whoever the hot name is.

I actually think it's the opposite Of course hitting on the 8th pick would be huge, but we have so many holes and only so much cap room to help try and fill them, especially on defense. We're never going to be a successful team until we start hitting on non 1st round picks, you can't build a full contender through only 1st round picks and free agents. The expectation is to hit on the 8th pick, no matter who it is. So this draft's success will be determined on finding another rookie starter with our 2nd and then also hitting on a contributor with our 3rd or one of the 4ths. Because that's what great teams do, they find contributors with those picks who can turn into starters within their first couple years in the NFL

It's Patrick Mahomes, what do you want him to do? They don't just keep losing to different teams each year and they've been able to beat him in the regular season more. Maybe it's just not about the Bills not being able to stop Mahomes when it matters the most, but it's that Mahomes is just unstoppable when it matters the most.

I don't remember the live tv angle off the top of my head, but I do remember my first reaction was that he didn't get it live, then on replay I thought he did, but also didn't see conclusive evidence of it, just that it was my opinion that he got it. All I've been arguing here is that I don't think it was anything shady or one ref overruling another, I specifically watched the refs running in on different spots and was wondering who would get it, the ball was handed to the ref who cam in short first, he placed it. Disagree with how it played out, but in the end, if any argument of "overruling" someone else could be made, it would have meant the one who came in with a 1st down mark would have needed to overrule the other.

This I spent way too many years hating guys like Brady and Lebron just because they won a lot. I'd rather be able to enjoy knowing I'm watching a true generational talent in their prime than just hate watch them and be angry. Sure I hate that Brady beat us in the SB, but that was a long time ago and after everything else he was able to accomplish after that game, I came around on him too. It's why I'm rooting for and following Wemby's career right now, it's why I want to see KC 3-peat. I'm getting too old to hate all time greats because they win and did nothing else to make me hate them, I'd rather just enjoy watching the greatness.

We can't even see the ball here from a camera a good 10 feet in the air, do you really think a likely sub 6' tall person standing on the field is going to be able to see the ball over all those huge players surrounding him? Refs placing the ball on any play has always been somewhat of a guessing game, it's never been exact. The fact that it is THIS close of a play to where you can't even exactly tell on replay, shows how much more impossible it would have been for any ref to make that call in real time. If you want to think this is the league making sure KC wins, so be it, but maybe Buffalo shouldn't have been so close, had they got literally another 6 inches further, it would have been clear he got the 1st.

If KC wins it, I think he already deserves the GOAT title, even with everything Brady did. At that point, Mahomes could lose it back to Brady if the rest of his career tanks, and by tanks I mean never even getting back to the SB again. But if he wins 4 in 7 years, plus another SB loss, and is the only to ever 3-Peat, to me, that's more impressive than Brady getting 7 in 10 appearances over a 22 season career (removing both of their rookie seasons when neither played)

I'm being intentionally obtuse and then you go on to say these things? You're literally arguing that if neither ref can actually see the ball, that the ref who can see his face has a better view of where the ball is than the one who can see his back. That's absolute utter nonsense, you either can see the ball or you can't, if you can't, then seeing someone's face or their back has zero bearing on anything. And go watch the replay the one ref didn't overrule the other, he was the first one handed the ball and he placed it, at that point it would have then needed the other ref to overrule him. Because I was specifically watching for the ball placement as I did see the refs coming in at different spots, so I'm quite sure that's how it played out.

So in 7 seasons as a starting QB, Mahomes will have played in 5 SB's and his other two season's being AFC Championship game losses, both in OT. Just crazy

HOLY poo Allen made that play and it was dropped, just crazy

you keep saying "overrule" but that's a woefully inaccurate term when neither one was "overruling" the other. What does seeing Allen's face vs back have any bearing on it, neither view helps you determine where the ball is in relation to the line to gain. It's the same way all ball spots happen, the first ref to be given the ball is the one who spots it, if you have a problem with that, take it up with how the game is officiated, but there was nothing nefarious here.

Again, neither ref could actually see the ball The ref who would have been facing the ball was 100% blocked out of view by all the big linemen, as there was a camera down the line that was like 10 feet in the air and we couldn't even see the ball there because of all the players, no ref standing on the field was seeing it when we couldn't.

who removed who's helmet? I didn't catch this one

WOW, way too much time left for Buffalo, and if they score, there won't be much left for KC

And why should the ref who spotted the 1st down overrule the other one?

interesting, KC is doing too well, going to end up leaving a lot of time on the clock, didn't expect them to do this

or, you know, they made the call they thought they saw on the field Just because it went one way, doesn't mean there was bias involved, not everything is some big conspiracy theory

It is now Mahomes is about to do his Mahomes thing, take 6 minutes off the clock and kick a FG with 3 seconds left to win it.