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You know why. Sam, Teddy, Baker, Okung, and on and on.

Please don’t compare TMJ to those two. When they played together the separation was a canyon. We over-drafted him when we desperately needed OL who were available. It’s something we tend to do.

Umm, Marshall never led those two in anything. Chase and Jefferson had 38TDs to Marshall’s 13. Chase had over 1000 yards more than Marshall and Jefferson had almost 900 yards more. Marshall was a clear WR3 and was closer to Moss (TE) and Helaire, who both had more receptions than Marshall. Marshall, just like Moss and Helaire, benefitted greatly from Chase and Jefferson. In no way was Marshall close to Chase and Jefferson.

He wanted an extension and is playing out the last year of his deal. It’s not surprising that he’d throw the coach under the bus. Pretty surreal he asked to be traded as well. That said, I agree with Ekeler, Staley isn’t a good coach. He’s even gotten lucky in his dumb decisions. I think last year he went for it against the Browns and the Browns kicker missed a FG to win the game. Against KC they had a win before a couple dumb decisions. The Chargers have more than enough talent and don’t play up to their potential.

There’s a lot of people in here who don’t think their poo stinks. All they do is complain about other people’s posts. It’s as annoying as some of the goofy posts.

That’s fuging next level trolling by Rhule. Next level poo.

Just an FYI, but there is no difference anymore. Every player can return after 4 weeks. You used to have to designate but that’s no longer the case. If someone is healthy, a team can take them off IR after 4 weeks. The only season long IR is for people hurt and put on IR before the season starts. Doesn’t mean people after week 1 won’t stay on the list all season, just that after week 1 any player is eligible for return after 4 weeks.

https://www.si.com/.amp/more-sports/2008/04/04/oline-rankings

Shi Smith was considered better by us too until he had some dropsies. He won the starting WR3 over TMJ because in preseason TMJ couldn’t separate. I remember TMJ being stared down by Sam and he was covered and fell down. Sam then found Shi for a nice TD. I never liked the TMJ pick over the solid OL available like Humphrey. We needed a C, not a 3rd WR.

Exactly, this is why people in here always complain that the Saints sign guys and we can’t. They put their big money into stars. We spend $55M on Teddy and Sam.

https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-place-brady-christensen-on-injured-reserve

SMH. I hate to be right but damn we are going to test our depth or lack thereof this year.

No idea if the Jets could work I but I hate the NO example. They paid their stars. We paid more for Teddy, Sam and Baker than they did for Brees. NO wasn’t magical, they just didn’t throw money away like us. We’ve used up our cap the past 3 years and we’ve signed no one great.

Parsons, Slater and Surtain are the gripe now. Personally, I would have been happy with all 3, but I think I preferred Slater while hoping Sewell would drop. I wanted OL up and down that draft. Parsons is a beast but Slater would have been nice as well because last year we could have taken Garrett Wilson instead of Iky. Young to Wilson would be really nice as would Burns with Parsons. Surtain would be nice as well just in terms of actually playing. I will also add that I 100% wanted to start Grier/sign no FAs/trade anyone for picks to tank for Trevor and draft Humphrey at C, BC (fine with him) and Trey Smith at G. Iky last year and sign Corbett. Iky, Smith, Humphrey, Corbett and Moton sounds nice with Trevor behind them. Unfortunately, Rhule and Hurney.

That’s why I was so pissed at taking a LS over Trey Smith and happy with Mays and Zavala. Taking 1-2 OL (maybe also DT/NT too) late every draft seems like a smart idea every year. Sometimes it’s hard to evaluate OL because it’s way more of a “team” sport at OL than say a WR or edge rusher or RB. If the guy next to me misses a block, I might not look as good. Our OL got so bad because of Hurney. Not only did we lose Kalil, Williams, Turner and Norwell under his watch, he also drafted Greg Little and Daley in 3 drafts. That’s it. We lost the entire interior OL that was together from 2014-2017 and he drafted a shitty LT and a shitty G/T. 2 crappy OL to replace losing basically our entire starting OL. Of course over those same 3 drafts, we got 5 LB/RBs and only 1 of them is still a backup on the team. We made a mistake with Brown/LS over Smith but at least we’ve drafted 5 OL in the last 3 drafts. You have to keep doing that every year.

SMH. I don’t get when people have to argue endlessly just to argue. You want to protect Bryce Yound so you’d rather keep someone at RG who was always a LG and put Corbett at LG when all he’s played is RG? Now you want Corbett, who was one of our best last year, backing up BC (our worst 2022 OL) and a rookie. It’s Ok to agree with me that Zavala could be a nice upgrade over BC at LG, his natural spot, and it’s good for Bryce to have a solid vet back at his normal RG position. That’s especially true since we are told this is a rebuild year and you yourself said that OL is likely our future plan.

I think much of group A is who started the tempering expectations after the Jets and Giants preseason games.

Corbett hasn’t played LG and was our starting RG. Zavala only played LG at NC State. Keeping Zavala at RG to avoid a cascading effect when you plan for him to be LG in 2024 makes no sense. Remember all the let’s put Iky at G so he gets it and move him to LT after his rookie year? Why? You want him at LT, start him day 1 like we did and now he’s got a year under his belt. Get the OL where it should be as soon as Corbett is healthy. That’s the smartest choice and IMHO avoid the cascading affect of playing two guys out of position and then swapping them back next year.

Did you miss the thread with this same tweet? It’s only a couple inches down.

What you just outlined is why our preseason plan made no sense. Pretty sure you were one of the folks saying we were vanilla so don’t worry, we have to hide things from Atlanta and NO the first two weeks. That doesn’t jive with the it’s our first game and we’ve been barely playing together. If you know it’s going to take a while to get, why did we limit snaps and plays in preseason? Why wouldn’t you get all the live/bullets flying reps you can get? I agree that it looked like we needed more time based on how we played. That’s why I think we did ourselves a disservice by being vanilla and limiting snaps. It certainly didn’t confuse or surprise Atlanta and I doubt it will surprise NO either. I know I posted my thoughts that who cares about hiding stuff, get all the live reps you can because I sure knew we weren’t competing this year.

SMH, let’s start cherry picking. It’s a stat and that long pass happened. It shows efficiency across the entire game. I was just trying to point out that it’s homerism that immediately says oh, we were better and we lost because of turnovers. We lost by 14 and the Falcons moved the ball on us, especially in the second half. If we had to punt instead of getting intercepted, probably doesn’t make a difference. Also, the thing about the press conference is dumb. Coaches will absolutely say they have to clean up their run defense if they gave up 5 ypc like we did but they won’t mention the stat itself. Doesn’t mean the stat is meaningless.

Right, but the most pro-ready QB and all star coaching staff shouldn’t start out the year like that IMHO. Rhule and Wilks had no trouble with Atlanta for 3 years. No one was tempering anything until we looked a bit lost (starter wise) in preseason.

I think Corbett has played RG almost his entire career. I’d switch the rookie. I don’t get switching him after this year. If the plan is LG of the future just put him there and deal with it. We aren’t winning squadoosh this year with our offensive weapons so just pull the bandaid off. Also, LG is supposedly the easiest OL spot to learn.

I get that you guys are trying to temper expectations but I don’t believe any of those teams had more than 3 wins when they got the number 1 pick. We were 7-10 last year without an all star coaching staff. Again, I feel like some of you are making more excuses for the staff than you should. Rhule and Wilks were 3-3 against Atlanta with a worst loss of 8 points, so Reich and crew got our worst loss to Atlanta since Rivers’s 0-8 finish that got him fired. I like Young and wanted to trade Burns to focus on young weapons to add around him, but I don’t feel like we were well prepared on Sunday or that we’ve done a good job building the team talent level the last few seasons. I’m tempering my expectations because of that more than growing pains with new people.

Yard per play definitely impact the game more than penalties. Turnovers are huge, but that’s not what I was saying. What I was saying is that due to the turnovers we looked like we controlled that game more with TOP and yardage. Looking at efficiency, they ran the ball and passes the ball better than us and had no turnovers. I might lean on the fact that that means they played better hence the 14 point win. Looking at the stats, I can’t say we were definitely the best team outside of turnovers.