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Spending a single top 10 pick is fine. Spending two top 10 picks, DJ Moore and two 2nds cannot ever happen again.

GB has a special teams WR that can get two feet down while already falling out of bounds and we have a first round WR that can get his feet down with a few yards of green before the sideline.

If I could be Morgan for a day, I’d resign.

You do realize that XL and Ladd both ran a 4.39 at the combine. Ladd had a slightly better 10 yard split.

Man, a QB like Stroud goes to two straight playoffs after his team was 4-13 and he’s trash? Bo Nix had his team in the playoffs and also has the second most TDs by a rookie QB but he’s trash too? Maye looked solid as well. Weird that you are bashing on the QBs drafted since 2022 and the 2024 class might be one of the best ever on early results. It’s pretty damn rare to have several QBs look good after one year. We knew 2022 sucked before the draft and it was kind of surprising that any QBs went in the 1st. 2023 was just OK but Stroud has been fine. 2025 is way too early. Anyway, 47 is kind of a ridiculous number as it includes 7th rounders. If you look at first rounders, it paints a different picture. 1 in 2022 that sucked and we knew it. 3 in 2023, 2 of whom are starting. 6 in 2024, all of whom are starters now. 2 in 2025, one of whom is starting. So, while they’ve had different levels of success, 9 out of 12 first round QBs since 2022 are their team’s starters. We had the top pick and it looks like we made multiple mistakes by trading up for who we did because 2024 looks like a crazy good QB class.

Weinke days was 1 year long in 2001. We were in the Super Bowl 2 years later after we got Peppers and Gross in back to back drafts. This has been 7 years of 2-7 wins per year and no draft picks as good as either of those two players. Same goes for Clausen. Like Weinke, his days were 1 year and 5 years later we went to the SB after we draft Cam and Luke back to back. I don’t know if you are trying to be obtuse but nothing in the Panthers past comes close to the 7 year long debacle we are in right now. The Weinke and Clausen “days” were both shorter than the past 7 years and both ended in Super Bowl appearances.

Thielen was gone after this year and he wouldn’t have made a difference today. Renfrow was open for two deep TDs with good throws. As you said, it’s bleak and this offseason you would have thought we had a top 5 WR corps, lol.

Sort of exciting based on the crap we’ve drafted at WR in recent years. I’m still worried about his speed and separation. He wasn’t able to separate at all on the almost TD. It’s not good on a deep route (not under thrown) for a CB to be able to reach around your back and knock the ball out of your back hand. He’s clearly better than our recent 2nd and 1st round WRs but his speed and separation was my biggest worry. I really hope that is overblown.

We are the worst team in the NFL in the last 6 years and we don’t look any better so far. This period of futility is the worst period we’ve ever had and we don’t have the talent to get out of this hole yet. Sorry, but as a long time fan, you don’t know how bad we can be if you don’t think this is that bad. We are just about to start wearing bags over our heads at games. That might have started if we weren’t a decent destination for other teams fans to visit. Today was more of the same which ain’t good.

That’s the toughest part. Only the most optimistic think we have good talent. We have Brown, Horn, Hunt and Hubbard that I could legitimately say are top 5-10 at their positions. Just based on math, each team should have 7 top 10 guys and that’s not even considering that a top 10 QB is worth 5+ times as much as a top 10 LB, S or RB. We need a poo ton more.

TMac maybe and Hubbard. That’s certainly not close to most teams.

After the first couple weeks and prior years, I’m not super duper excited for the QBs coming out. I’m a Clemson fan and I want no part of Klubnik as our QB. Arch put up some stats against the juggernaut of San Jose State but he also had the same inaccuracy issue and damn it you shouldn’t be talked about as a #1 overall pick if you can’t beat a 7th round pick in your sophomore season. Allar is like his coach, terrible against good teams. Nussmeyer didn’t impress me last year or against Clemson, it was all dump offs and let my guys do the hard work. Maybe Sellers but even he didn’t look great against SC State. Personally, I’d love to get a haul from someone with a hard on for one of those guys. I don’t see a Stroud or Daniels in these guys but maybe there is a Nix or Maye.

They mentioned a great stat before our game today. We have the longest active streak with 10+ losses. It’s at 6 seasons and TBH it appears like we are heading for our 7th. I’m watching but damn if I going to be optimistic after a game like that which fills you up with zero hope that you have the right GM, Coach and QB. If we can’t feel confident about those three spots, we likely get that streak up to 8, 9 or 10 seasons.

Hurney 2.0 was not drafting borderline HOFs. Cam and Luke aren’t in a different stratosphere as Moore, Burns and Brown. There’s a reason why we kept drafting top 10 with the Hurndog. That said, I’d take Hurney 3.0 and DG 2.0 in a heartbeat over what we had for the 2021-2025 offseasons.

If he was more hit than miss, we wouldn’t be getting blasted by a team that was 4-13 last year. Sorry, but Zavala, Horn and Ransom? They are backups at best on a team that’s not very deep. We sure seem to pick a lot of guys who can’t stay healthy. Objectively, Morgan hasn’t done well so far. Our past two 1st rounders are our top 2 WRs and we scored 3 points in the first 3 quarters against a the 6th worst scoring defense of 2024. For a GM to do well, we have to be drafting and signing impact players. He hasn’t done that.

Especially if the pick is #8. A top ten pick should be a stud.

I’ve been saying it all preseason that I’m waiting until the show something before I feel the need to be hopeful. Not a good start when the first 7 games seemed like our easy part. The Jets game no longer seems like a gimme and Atlanta and Arizona look better. Miami may be on our level, but I see 4-13 as a decent chance of being our results.

I’m sorry man but I’m still not 100% sold on him. He clearly is our best WR but that’s not saying much. My worry is still separating. He got no space on the almost TD. In college he can make those contested catches but it’s not the same in the pros. Easy TD if he’s got even a little separation, but the CB was able to grab his left arm around his back. Thats how close the CB was. I think he’ll be our #1, but I need to see more separation to feel like he was worth pick 8.

We kept thinking he’d be awesome filling our LBs with studs and with draft picks and FAs, this may be the worst LB corps we’ve ever seen before. Wasn’t real impressed with any of his D additions. We needed to clean house in 2022, not just Rhule. Rhule sucked as a coach but he was basically out the door after 2021. Fitterer and his crew (Morgan including) are the real reason we aren’t close to competitive anymore. They truly decimated this roster.

Two long TDs if Bryce could throw a good deep ball.

That team was more talented. We barely lost to both #1 seeds and we started 2021 3-0 with people talking playoffs. We fell apart but that team had better players and depth. We traded Moore, CMC and Burns for basically nothing.

Lol. So true. They were even saying how rough Bryce has been to start every year. Somehow we think that keeping our offense vanilla to hide our secrets is more important than our players clearly being out of sync to start every year. Our last 3 week 1s with Bryce: Lost/Losing by a score of 91-23 Bryce 1 TD and 5 INTs, 1 Fumble lost, 121 yards passing per game Seeing as how much better he’s been at the end of the season, it boggles the mind as to why we don’t play more in preseason. We’ve been miles from the playoffs, work on what Bryce needs to work on in preseason.

I think the only bright spot is that I think more people are laughing at Daniel Jones bitch slapping Miami. Miami may be worse than us. Maybe…

Somehow we still get told that we are building something special. It’s pretty obvious that Bryce isn’t going to ever be close to worth what we gave up. It’s pretty obvious that we really haven’t moved on from the Fitterer stink. It’s pretty obvious that XL at almost 25 years old will never be worth a late 1st. It’s pretty obvious that we don’t know how to scout and still routinely make bad mistakes like thinking Corbett can stay healthy and is a good center.

Is Nick Scott 21? If so, hmm.