CanadianCat

Been some discussion that if BY doesnt play well we move on from him. But if we dont draft a QB who is that vet that we bring in? Not a lot of great options but would Tua or Mac Jones be on the short list of failed vets to bring in to our "QB fixer" Head Coach?

I mean.. statistically is harder to go 0-3 than 1-2.. so... LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Thats fair.

Yeah, and... NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG and that applies to coaches and GM's. If your a coach that has a bad team and is on the hot seat, you are not going to say that you are going to build the roster and NEXT year draft the QB (unless you are the Steelers) You draft the QB this year and that likely buys you an extra year before getting fired. The NFL is a instant gratification sport. Some teams (very few) take the long term, approach but even that doesnt always work. Ultimately its down to the player. We had a crap team and drafted Newton and we were instantly competitive. We drafted Young (whom I still support) and it seems we need to built a team around him. Frank did have a plan. Hell we had the most expensive coaching roster in the NFL. Everyone was singing our praises about the supports we put in place. Yet on game day there is only one person behind center.

Part of all of this is Canales needing to look out for his job as well. I completely expect him to be here next year but next year could be the year he gets fired if he doesnt improve things. So if BY doesnt improve significantly, I would expect to see a new QB here next year. Canales job will determine on how the QB position plays next season.

Ejiro wont get fired.. he gets AT LEAST 4 games - probably closer to half the season. My biggest issue with him is that all teams know that Horn doesnt travel, so they just isolate him on the far side and target Jackson.

Im still ok with Dan. Also the reality is that we have to stick with Dan... Im a big believer that GM's and HC's need to be tied to the hip - and we are not firing Canales in year 2 of 7. I think almost no matter how the year end results are, we are having another year with Canales. Its how ye does NEXT year that will determine if he gets fired or not.

Im ok with the 'ride or die' with BY. I think the FO know they get another shot if he doesnt make it, so why spend resources on a player that will never be the future anyway.

In hindsight, honestly we should have stuck with Teddy and built the team up before dropping a drafted QB into place. We traded for Darnold, dumped him and seen him get success. We picked up Baker, dumped him and now will see him beat us 2x a year. Sometimes its not the player..

Canales said that the WR ran the wrong route and BY threw it were he was supposed to be?.... Even if that's true on 4th down you force the ball...

Dom should take over for the rest of the year then let Canales pick his guy.

Listening to the to presser, sounds like there is some tension between HC and DC. Reporter asked the question (paraphrasing) "The staff pride themselves on being a developmental staff and we see lots of young players playing on offense, yet we don't see that on the defense?" Canales "Yeah I would like to see that too"............

I think Thielen wanted to leave and we got decent compensation for him. We would have been a better team with him but Morgan played the hand we had well IMO. Cooker going down really hurt us though.

We ran the ball well yesterday. I thin kif we can get a lead we can maintain it. Yesterday just looked like everyone was trying to hard to make plays and then made mistakes. Evero.. Im willing to give him the season to see what he can do.. but he needs to make this a top 20 unit to not get fired.

I think you are right... BY is not Canales "guy" he is working with what he has. Hopefully BY turns into the guy but if he sucks this year next offseason we are QB shopping. I think Canales is our coach almost no matter what next year regardless of this years result. Not to derail the conversation, but time also allows us to forget that Cam was never a great thrower of the football.