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For me the time to take the chance was where the Packers got him (yet it doesn’t seem like they took advantage). Or where the Titans did (3rd round). Anyway Green Bay gave Tennessee a 7th rounder for him. Everyone is on him now. The ticket price has gone way up to where he is like betting on the prohibitive favorite. He would have to ‘win’ or you are screwed.

I have to say, the two against the Rams in… December? Those were big time throws. But they count a little out in the 2nd quarter as a big time throw. Equally. When I saw the graphic about this I thought I was looking at the sports section of the Babylon Bee, I got a good laugh out of it. So thanks for that. I go back to it again, they call a 20 yard pass a deep ball. In the gamecast world, you will read about TD passes from 16 yards being deep. It’ll say Marino to Duper complete deep 16 yards TD. How can one live in such an insane world?

I didn’t unlock anything like that but there was a threshold of what you asked for, if they came to you with it. You could always get overpaid. Hold out one more time. I had some drafts.

I feel like we need LOT so bad now that we would be duty bound if a qualified prospect was sitting there. My other desire would be trading down to get the right value in the first, if possible, and have some ammo to move up for a LB in the second.

Well, their guy wasn’t much better.

It depends. You won’t get hurt too bad, number one, with a solid target number two, if you are talking 19 to 16 or 17, it won’t be that bad and if you have number one right, you should be pretty straight. Coming 3 slots from 19 is not comparable to 3 slots from 6. Obviously.

It kind of rivals 2001 for that. We found every way to lose a game that year. Some of it was mind blowing. That team was not a 1 win team. This year? I’m not sure we had a single last second stunning WTF loss all year. Where we pulled defeat from the jaws of victory. Though, I am drinking and inclined to forget something. This team was not a playoff team. We slipped up and performed admirably in the wild card game, yes we did. So credit there but I don’t have much else. It doesn’t feel like a lock that we improve this coming year record wise, at all. The Icky injury just really hurt us. Every potential improvement we could pencil in is knocked down a notch behind needing to cover that.

We effing need to. I know where the holes are and edge and LOT are for sure two. But I really have missed having good LB play. That is my guilty pleasure pick all day. They only thing I would be good giving it up for is a really solid LOT.

There’s no way we are gonna know, if they address it it will be portrayed as a mutual decision, most likely. Whether it was 80-20 ‘mutual’ or 50-50 mutual. One thing I believe is encouraging is they know they have to do better and probably have a good enough rapport where this can be candidly discussed. I doubt this was forced on Canales. Yeah it could have been I just don’t think it was 100-0

As far as age, I doubt the Saints regret taking Shough, Different position I know, but if he is ready to step in? I expected not to like Person’s choices but I am good with this. At least, without looking to see who he passed on to take these guys. I can say, the last thing I want to see in the 1st or 2nd round is a WR or TE.

Alignment between the key people is always what you strive to have. The Seahawks fans were no doubt butt hurt over that SB goal line play. You know yourself we have fans that one mistake like that totally defines all future prospects with a player or coach. Every base has them. I will just cite the recent experience in Miami as a positive. He worked closely with a leading offensive mind, and a fuging project QB like we have here.

I agree. Good maneuvering by Dan to have it addressed this way. There may be a way to get Canales to be better at what he is weak on just with some competent help. If not, plan B is ready to hit the ground running.

I don’t see it that way. There is common ground from Seattle with Morgan, I think, and Canales and probably Idzik too - without looking it up. Canales worked for Bevell, having a guy there that has done your same job can really be a good thing. As that guy knows the job and has a perspective that someone like Idzik has yet to acquire. I put it this way, if you have done the same job you can be a better employee or assistent to the guy in it now. It is a personal anecdotal conclusion as I was an employee, and then a boss for pretty good while and when that ended and I was an employee again elsewhere, I was much better at it than I had been in my earlier employee days. The only way it could be bad on its face, to me, is if Bevell is out to steal the HC job, to undermine. Which I can’t assume is true. I do feel like Caldwell is likely pretty worthless. Capers slightly less so because he was brought in to help Evero who is still here. Not sure who Caldwell was brought in to mentor. It wasn’t Canales. I doubt we need either.

He also has interim HC experience with two teams. If it gets to that kind of place. I think it is a good move. Could be really good. We will see but I totally get it, personally. It doesn’t mess the cap at all, what do we care if the coaching payrolls gets bigger? Which as far as that goes, whatever offsets were in Reich’s deal allow you to fold Bevell’s cost into what is deducted because of what he makes with the Jets. Probably a wash, at worst. If we were even concerned about that

Agreed. They are fun if you are doing the mock. There was a site that would run a draft for you, and allow you to propose trades and I think would generate trade proposals as well. It was a blast to run a few of those. Especially with the trades- I was stockpiling so many picks, lol.

I would say he was probably valuable in the film room, or showing the young guys what you can pick up from it. But at the same time saw him as a training wheel that needed to be taken off.

You know it is possible for your two things to be true, and also for Bryce not helping the situation being true as well. XL was open a lot, not seen or at least targeted, and there were some poorly placed balls in the mix. I don’t see a soul defending or denying XL’s mental lapses which in a broad sense can include just about every mistake he made. The brain dead penalties and sideline stuff, right along with his drops. He failed the test in 2025. He was demoted with good reason. I don’t see anyone arguing against that.

I guess he is a guy who was okay calling the heave it up for grabs strategy, where Wilson’s ducks flew high and free in the fall afternoon air. If XL stays, that could be a way to use him with this QB. Or the other guys could do the same…. but just for me, that is how I expected them to use XL when he was drafted.

I don’t know how you know, it could be both Canales and Morgan. But it speaks well of Dan I think, I smell some awareness that there is an issue around Canales’ wearing all these hats. Unless Canales went to him and did the mea culpa, I would think Dan had a candid discussion with Dave and Dave, to his credit, saw the issue too. Was it, “hey Bevell is out there on the vine right now for the taking, can he help us?”, or was it “we both agree we need help in this department, who could we get?”?

What’s that saying? Wish in one hand and spit in another, see which one fills up faster? I bet there are a lot of us that wish we would seriously look at that option. And others But when you get into 50mil contract talk that dims my enthusiasm for that particular one. That would be taking a real expensive shot in the dark.

Yes I was. And I have clearly said I expect them to be tough on him. I couldn’t remember the exempt list, they put Hardy on that for quite some time if I recall. Well yeah I have said the NFL was tougher than the legal system historically and I only offered it up as a possible argument his side could use. I can’t think of anything else they could try. (I wasn’t advocating for him). Heck I said way back this is worse than what Hardy did, not defending Hardy this is just that poo on steroids.

Been more than one example of that too. And the calls that went in for those last 4 plays… that happened once before last year too. I want to say one of those Saints games but it might have been early on with the comeback falling short vs Az. I could swear we have seen that before. You know, thinking about it, and where Canales is in his development, the best thing might be to get a proven guy upstairs and have him call the plays while Canales focuses of getting the other parts of his job working right and being more comfortable where some things become second nature. If we had a good couple of year run like that the OC could probably leave for a promotion and Canales might be in a better position to handle it. I am 50/50 on Canales, maybe 60/40. It seems to me that you lose something not seeing the field as well as you do from upstairs. And you can’t HC from upstairs.

Also, one argument Pearce’s side could make, don't know if would fly, is if the league suspends him before he has his day in court, they would be negatively impacting his ability to hire the best defense attorneys he could hire. (Loss of income) And that a suspension should only be implemented after a guilty verdict or plea. I don’t think that will work.

The league has been very tough on those issues, when their hand has been forced. They tried to sweep Ray Rice under the carpet at first. But even pansy ass Goodell has been tougher than the US legal system on them. He doesn’t really have the presumption of innocence and the constitutional protections to adhere to, nor does he have to contend with juries. And insane, unethical (imo) attorneys. Who don’t seem to be very consistent, let me put it that way. They are easily swayed by dog and pony shows and celebrity lately. I could be surprised but I expect the guy to have a better shot with the justice system than with the league. Better a Falcon in that seat than a Panther, for sure. Blank got hosed by Fontenot and to maybe a lesser degree, Morris. There were some truly boneheaded decisions made by that regime. (bless their hearts).

Yeah there is a lot of slack that if tightened up would possibly get us up a level. Just getting us out of suffering from the obvious oversights, could make a game or difference in the end.