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I see the most interesting angle as: how to put it - a Dan Morgan referendum. Who is he as a team builder? Is he going to separate himself from Fitterer and Tepper’s draft philosophies (well, Fitterer’s anyway, Tepper is just sees something shiny, wants it)? Are we going to see different types of players valued? Off topic... I am sorry but people that bought Young and Drew Brees did zero homework. I got so tired of seeing it that I looked at the actual size and weight of Brees and Young. Using Brees as the baseline or center point, take the difference between him and Young, go the other way with it.... you are into prototypical size QBs. That is how far Young is from Brees in the other direction. IOW give Bryce 25lbs and he gets to Brees. Give Brees the same and he gets to a beautiful prototypical size. It is a different strata.

BPA. We held Canales’s offense to 3 FG in a game that they needed, while we had nothing to play for. They had a better QB than Bryce.

I can easily picture Tepper making it clear through his tantrums that they were all just waiting for the axe to fall by the time Reich was out. If not weeks before. Brown was screwed from jump because that was too big a job for a first timer. I’d like to have been a fly on the wall after those first padded practices and the Jets scrimmages. It must have been like script writers realizing the producers hired actors who couldn’t pronounce half the words they needed to deliver the line. At the last run through.

Happy with Evero personally, though I wanted Wilks for HC. I think the season Wilks spent as DC here was the least impressive. He didn’t outright suck but it was different. Less it seemed. Loved him as DB coach and think he did the job as HC, mostly. I haven’t really followed SF’s season but don’t find it shocking that this happened.

You don’t do that if you were happy with him otherwise. Maybe they were done win or lose. Who knows? May have been some disagreement over the particular game or it could have been a disagreement about something regarding moving forward. I didn’t see any blatant reason why that loss goes on the defense. It was a team loss in most aspects, I’d say. So I mean, fired because of that game? If anything it was ‘the straw....’.

I only speed watched a condensed version. Just watching the game sort of out of duty. My takeaway was there were a couple of key fugups by a couple of players but overall I thought SF defense played well. There at the end Kelce started hurting them; they controlled him fairly well overall, to the point it looked like Purdy forgot about him. I’d have to go back and look for it to focus on his game in particular but Wilks could have been playing the don’t let Kelce beat you game. Until late. I guess I totally missed the stuff on the sidelines with Kelce fwiw. Haven’t even read an account of the game, maybe I am easier on them than a lot of people. They aren’t my team I am not much invested. They are probably sick over the many plays they could have made to earn a different outcome.

If they want Ickey at LT the best thing they can do is get the baddest ass edge guy to go against him in practice. The Peppers/Gross model was a good one.

Hoge, says what he thinks. Isn’t always right but he was so dead on with the arm limitations. I am afraid of him being right that Young can be good. Because he will always be limited. I hate limited in a QB. I guess it’s perspective, I can root for an overachiever if they stick to the underdog role. But you can get one cheap if that’s what you want to do. As opposed to selling me that this historically short, slight, limited overachiever is gonna tear up the NFL. See I don’t want to believe it because it is contrary to previous known football values. NFL style anyway. Immediately, I know I need to see why they say that. But then I am told I can’t see it because it is inside of him. What he has that makes him the best of all of these prospects, can’t be seen. Only football experts can understand it. But don’t worry, he has a good enough arm. Yeah. So I look for myself. What I can see, is not impressive. I have never understood why it was taboo to drop him as not NFL suited. Laud him as an all time great college player, for the college game. There have been many before him that were relegated to that. Afterthoughts in the draft, that may be able to make a roster but it ain’t college any more for them. In the end I am left ruing the day of the deed. Asking of no one in particular WHY did MY team have to be the ones to buck decades of hard earned knowledge about scouting the QB position? The misery....

Mike Maser wasn’t it? Got in his dog house. As far as kickers, Butker getting passed on, who was ST coach that year? I’d look there before looking at Hurney.

Bozeman had a baby, the wife did anyway. We forget that there are things outside the team that players have to deal with that does impact their football job. I knew he was gonna have a rough year when I saw that. Probably got zero sleep. Then goes to work where he has a baby he is snapping the ball to, and guys beside him that... well let me just say I don’t know if I have ever seen worse than Zavala. In general all you had to do is flip flop what gap you are rushing with your teammate and Panthers OL won’t touch you. Never seen such unintelligent OL play. I hate to say it but damn, Campen. That was a pretty poor job. I believe if they focus on the G positions Bozeman will be adequate for the rest of his deal.

There is a lot of stuff out there about what Canales did just last year. Reshuffling the OL is one thing I heard, I haven’t read much yet. I did see him claim they would have a good running game, they didn’t, really.

This guy was Qyburn. edit: And learning about him, and his firing, is the first Panthers news that has made me really smile since Tepper took over.

Where is the 9th pick we gave up in all those names? Jalen Carter? edit: that trade, the farther you get from it, the worse it looks. Wait until the top pick this year does what he is gonna do.

As I was reading it all I could think is so this is the person responsible for all the fugups and the misery.

Genius is not what I was thinking, while reading that article. Sounds like he was allowed to write his own obituary.

Yeah, I appreciated winning a few games and having some realistic hope to see a winning season as a possibility on a consistent basis. Which is not where we are right now. May be subject to change, but that will take a lot. My opinion is basically that the stuff that has happened since the ’22 season ended, shows that he was just never going to get this job.

I don’t think anyone who is rooting for Wilks to do well believes that SF going to the bowl is Wilks’ doing, and no one is saying he is Buddy Ryan with his D carrying a poo offense either. Shutting out a team that put 30 on you in a half, that is a good offense... holding them there is worthy of praise the same as giving up the 1st half is worthy of condemnation. Playoffs, the games are harder or are supposed to be. Again though, someone has to cover Kelce. I haven’t seen every Chiefs game but in the playoffs for two and maybe three years now, who had an answer for him? Mahomes goes to the bank of Kelce when things get tight. If Wilks can stop him, that’s a pretty good job.

Had only someone told Tepper about that S2 before that draft, who knows? I am not real bothered by this, if I am supposed to be. Just being on the board doesn’t ensure the player get picked, obviously. And you have to be at/near the top of the board at some point for that to happen and since the guy was the dead last pick, you wouldn’t think he was at the top of a list anywhere by anybody throughout the process - all the way up to that last pick. Should he have been? Even the 49ers undervalued him multiple times before taking the shot so I won’t use hindsight now. I’d bet some teams were disappointed he didn’t make the UDFA pool.

If those stats are right that is illuminating. I can only guess that it just looks lesser. Whether that is love for Ryans clouding the picture or what, unsure. I haven’t watched but a couple of SF games this year to know.

Wilks better find a way to handle Kelce. You know, I doubt he is bitter, more like relieved. If he paid any attention to the Panthers this year he knows he dodged a huge bullet.

What’s funny to me is, his friend stole the chance for his chip on my shoulder game against the team that passed you over. He has to be nice and not say fug them they should have picked me and I am going to show them.

I agree, it isn’t as if he is part of long term plans. Set him free if he wants to go, but to the AFC. The team should get some type of compensation if possible. Business is business.

Got it. I wish you’d have let that pass. Quoted that out of all of it. I guess it is you are 21, an adult in the eyes of the law. Cut and dried. Words aside, mentally mature doesn’t always go with physically mature. At the same time some of our players are not physically mature either, even though they are legally adults. So 22, 23? When the hell is it that you are an adult? I don’t know how to keep arguing it or why I would really. Let me try again: it is alleged that (many of) today’s players are weak minded spoiled/entitled people that still behave like children into their early to mid 20s. LOL That’s rough when I re-read it but is a mashup of characterizations I have seen floating around the internet in recent memory. Which I don’t interact with these people to even know, but I see a lot of talk about “modern” athletes that echo a sentiment similar to the one exhibited in Canales’ statement. I was lamenting that he has to play those games in the first place. Obviously he thinks he does or why go there? I hope that’s a better expression of my reaction to that part of his press conference statements.

Thew thing is that you ca\n say he made You are overlooking that the bloat to get the weight up plays a pretty big part in it. I know he was absolutely consciously taking part in the deception. . I know people accept this from the prospects for some reason I blame the Panthers for not seeing the reality that was banging on the front door, but no one was home. .

Okay the next time I have a chance I am going to browse some Bengals games.