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What people can’t seem to learn is, the pendulum always swings back the other way. What is old, becomes new and vice versa. I mean, wait long enough, bell bottom jeans come back. I like to zig when everyone else is zagging. That is how trends get started. Don‘t follow, do what you know you can do and do it better than everyone else. You will be fine.

They said he was going to be active. The running back thing, we are going to miss Chuba pass blocking I think but maybe Etienne can show some moves. I believe he has some. Also I said this elsewhere but the downfield shots vs the 3rd and long handoffs rather than trusting the QB that was complained about here, was addressed in an Athletic article by Person. With Legette back I am expecting some Russel Wilson type downfield prayers to be tried this week.

I think we were both Wilks advocates, and yeah. Except for the couple good games Andy played and the one standout Bryce game last year, it is the best the team has looked in years. I mean we’re we gonna be champs? No. Were the top teams a lot better than we were? Yep. It was something to build on and we threw all of the things we had in front of us, cap space, draft picks, etc, and Sam is better than a Bryce will ever be, we threw it all away to chase a trend. Not to Set a trend but just to be in with the cool kids. And proved we had no idea what we were doing.

Agreed and appreciate the effort that went into the original post.

Someone delete this monstrosity for me please, It won’t allow me to do it. Sorry.

I was trying to quote this from MHS and messed it all up this editor sucks “My very UNPOPULAR opinion: First, I would want to know the locker room. Have they turned on Canales? If not, I would stay with him. Here is why: Switching coaches every year or two is not the answer to long term success. We are chasing hope instead of building a program around a young coach. There were not many applicants for this job and if you think they are suddenly dying to be here now, that MIGHT justify a coaching change Canales has made some tough decisions (like benching Bryce), but his weaknesses (the team's weaknesses) have been in the areas in which we have neglected or sucked for years. Who did we get for CMC? Who made the trade with the Bears when we had no idea at the time who we wanted? Who drafted Mingo, Marshall, XL, etc.? Who signed a frequently-injured CB to the biggest contract in NFL history at the time for a CB? I look at the personnel decisions and the play calling. Our edge players are injured and not that good when healthy. He played Johnson because he had nothing left. Johnson was terrible Sunday. He has nothing at LB and two starting OL are now out. XL is pouting because he does not seem to have paid the price to be paid the price of a first round pick. AT was sent packing. Bryce's resurgence last year may have been Canales and not Bryce. Evero still does not have the tools he needs to succeed--on the field or perhaps between his ears. If Canales fires Evero, he is probably doing the right thing. Remember, we had a lot of money in dead cap when Canales took over. Fitterer was the worst GM since Matt Millen in the NFL, and we have sucked recently in the first round of the draft (Bryce, XL) until this season. When the GM is trying to give the coach what he needs to be successful and you keep changing coaches, it is difficult. I think this--stay with Canales, but bring in a veteran DC. Some argue that Canales needs to move on from Bryce, but this team is not set up to give him options. Andy aint the answer. We never seem to take the PS QB seriously--all eggs are in one basket. Canales needs options. This team needs to address the QB situation. Bryce's best games are not Lombardi worthy, so move on. He is not the Alpha a young coach needs on the field. Give him options at QB, some LBs and a good coordinator on defense, and I think we could use another stud WR. It is time to start drafting developmental OL and start grooming them to replace our aging OL. This draft is solid at QB as it stands now. We need to focus on drafting the right guy and signing a veteran backup who is not the starting QB's BFF. Compete. Heck, i have no problem doing what Cleveland did--draft a QB in round 1 and then another QB if one falls into day 3. I think we need stability and I am not confident any respectable coach comes to Carolina. Canales is frustrated, but the front office has failed him, as have injuries, and a really bad draft a few years ago that brought them Bryce. He was hired to fix Bryce--so I say neuter him so he does not sire any more 5'8" QBs. Canales is better that Rivera was--Canales just has so much less talent. Rivera was coach of the year a few times because he had Cam Newton, but could never put two winning seasons together. That is a crime.“ Good thoughts there man. I I agree with about all of that. You speak to the importance of having continuity. I am big on it as something that we have lacked that is stunting our growth. Constantly resetting the clock and taking the steps back that come with it. And here we are yet again - 21 games after saying we are really gonna commit to it this time, only to be bitten by the instant gratification bug because it isn’t paying off. in other news I probably don’t know enough about some of these candidates listed above but I don’t see much that excites me. Especially when I add Tepper to the picture. Plus there is a lot of season left that needs to play out still.

I am bc always puzzled how these faults manage to transcend multiple different eras with completely different people across the board, making judgements on players.

Thank you. If that happens, barring a miracle where Young magically acquires an ability to compete against pro defenses, I won’t be here and won’t care. Personally, when I see Andy run the offense I feel like a weight has been lifted. It goes back to looking like pro football. I can’t help but think it would be liberating for Canales. or anyone. Bet we’d have seen Reich perk right up.

Trying to be funny? Dude was next level HOF player. He will be HOF. Cerebesl and physical, both 99th percentile if not 100th And yes is on the radio poo…. — Turning back to the subject, after some listening to opinions and thinking about it, I would regretfully withdraw my support for the idea If he failed it might mean estrangement from the team and fan base. Can’t allow that to be in play. Not that I think he would fail. I don’t, but it could happen and would be messed up.

That is true. He was always saying we have to get so and so involved but then the game comes and it doesn’t happen. Maybe there was a good reason, but that has happened a few times.

How about tomorrow….

That is a great idea actually. If anyone could step up to the requirements without coaching experience he would be one. He has the work either, the brain, the respect. I am a defensive coach person always have been. Wanted that before we did all this chasing the offensive play caller trend foolishness.

We have a couple of difference makers. But they can’t make up 30 points, or make our QB be good.

Yeah, I yield to the ABB mantra. It ain’t nothing but a thing at this point. It is a small risk big reward. Completely opposite from huge risk, small (no) reward that we have been living through

You seen the ball placement when he does play? I wouldn’t expect too much. But as I typed that I realized one thing, with the Dave doesn’t trust his QB on 3rd down stuff that has gone on this week, look for some jump balls downfield. So, maybe..

My people are from Marion and they play Mullins in sports. Lol.

That works too. ABB and I don’t mean Allman Brothers Band.

The weirdest stat.. I tried to get the definition straight, it was all over the place. ‘A big time throw is one into a tight window or this or that’ and just stopped. I have eyes. I can see what a good throw is. And I saw every one of them. Many twice. Or more

You cannot hope to calculate poo accurately with Bryce Young in the equation.

I saw that too. And am fine with giving him an instructional benching. That is this year right now. But all offseason how many damned times did we hear about that drop in Philly? And I look at him being all mopey and think I bet he snuck on social media to see what people were saying and saw that got himself into a crisis over it. He isn’t a real smart guy, and seems sensitive. Also I will be one of the last people to take up for a loafer. I saw it too.

I put his drafting on Bryce and (apparently) his dad and the urgency the team felt to make Bryce work out. People said AT and Ladd were suited for the same position, I always thought that the team was not looking to this year or next, they had to fill the three WR positions for that season to eliminate excuses, prop Bryce up, that whole thought process. I think it was all connected. like a spider web. All the moves. The Brooks pick too. I didn’t scout any of those guys and don’t watch much college ball at all, so had no opinion on the players. Just on the motivations that brought us to those choices.

Lol I am not saddle broke either. Agree. But do you remember the second half (a half mind you) of Green Bay in 2023 and how long we were told about it? Irrational stanning is hard to stamp out.

It is a noticeable thing. Patience, so many had it for Bryce. Fresh out for everybody else. Seems like. You can’t say he has looked good, but to bury him with this QB and now everyone is calling the limited playbook offense he is in shitty p and the coach is shitty (which would be something that affects a green over drafted WR), and no one I can recall except you had mentioned the old way of 3 years. I don’t know who is right. Just saying I agree with you about patience being so thin.

That reminds me of a quote from Augustus McCrae from Lonesome Dove, about Jake Spoon. Something like “Lori darlin’, you put your hope in Jake Spoon and he is an empty vessel” Just from memory I don’t think that is exact but that’s the gist.

I ageee that it was a loaded question - that I don’t think I have ever seen asked of a guy that was out for injury not benching. As was pointed out.