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I’d give it another year for Sanders and Evans, I don’t much care what you do with Tremble’s spot. Let him have another year or maybe replace him. Haven’t looked at his contract so that may be the determining factor.

Following the crazy up down pattern we finish 9-8 with an improbable sweep of TB, and lay an egg in the home playoff game. I don’t know if I can sign on to sweeping TB but I suppose it’s possible, they aren’t really that good this year. ps I can buy beating TB Sunday and losing to Seattle. Then it just gets to can you fluke one game. Any given Sunday. So we’ll see.

Well I was a Darnold and I think you know what I have thought about Bryce since before we even drafted him. You can’t blanket statement this poo. But my standards start at tools/size. I am lenient when I see potential. Anyone that can watch our team for 8 years and be glad we do not have Darnold because he probably would choke in the SB or the NFCCG has eaten some real sour grapes.

No doubt you are right about who Dan and Dave refer to. Luke seemed pretty happy with not having having the team called ass. 2nd place schedule. Or lol even 1st possibly. Gonna be harder.

All this great stuff he has done, how often does he do it? I have it at three or four games out of 14 where he was very good and then you get a drive here or a series there where there are some good things. Here is the gaslight part: everyone has put him on a curve with his first year the baseline, neglecting to understand how bad he was then. Even if he comes back twice as good, where does that really leave him? 25th ranked or thereabouts. He had so far to go, and still does, it is a Major ‘settle’ to accept his play as worthy of giving him our future. You want to settle when the Bucs have Mayfield, and the Saints have overtaken us at QB? We will be third in the division at QB. That is good enough for y’all?

Man, Florio and Simms are bleak on Tua. Just put Bryce’s name in every time they talk about Tua’s shortcomings and it is like reading this board. Or some of my posts lol. Why do they hate him so much? They are bad people!

Anytime your knee is trying to fold on you, gotta get some slack.

When I see them looking like deer in headlights, JC players vs pros, I can’t believe when I see them go out and have a decent game wham called on. And if they did it once, I am not expecting that the next time. Zavala has had some extreme swings where he looked up and coming at times last year but here we are again this year with the 2023 version

The up and down performance of these backups might be odd, except they’re backups. Zavala and Nijman have looked cut worthy more than once and other times have been pretty good. Who knows what to think….. I usually go with pessimism.

Agreed. It is similar to when we win and he has 120 yards and 1 TD. It wasn’t about him.

I haven’t seen it mentioned here but Cam about had a conniption over Rivers being called and his phone didn’t ring. There is video.

So yeah let’s blame a DC for failing to succeed after they pillaged your defense in every manner available to them to prop up their QB. For two hard years like scorched earth they tore that defense down and spent the proceeds on the offense. You know. Draft, cap, FA. Drained the defense. Whatever you think of Evero. Whoever the DC is. No one can compete with what they gave him. The whole organization should have been apologizing to him. I am no Evero homer but let’s be real.

Okay then. To me that means Russell Wilson was Coryell. Because I see the proposition completely in the Russell Wilson punt/pass put it up for grabs mold. Count on the receiver to catch it or knock it down. And the reason I thought that was the intent with Legette is the abysmal downfield game from 2023. As in, there was barely any. I look at it as if… the result of a deep attempt isn’t as important as the opponent understanding they have to defend it. So I was all for some 50/50s. Coryell, Walsh whoever. I do favor the Coryell approach personally but also very much value versatility, it doesn’t have to be strict. Just make the defense defend the whole field, however you do it. It has to include downfield throws.

Well, his job is to win and make Bryce better and other stuff too but he has to have a certain amount of buy in to make that work. If it is real or he has to talk himself into believing it, as coach and leader and in the context of the present time with the whole team needing to believe, who knows? You lie if you have to. I think you have have to separate that Canales from the detached offseason evaluation Canales. It is possible that you are correct and he is sold on Bryce. It is also possible that he isn’t, but cannot confess.

Good lord. If in that rambling you are saying we should all agree that the premise of the original post in this thread is valid? Keep dreaming. It was a strawman. False premise. Acting as if a ton of people were blaming Bryce for the loss. Which was not happening. To allow that stuff to go unchallenged, is worse.

There is a contingent that is total Bryce but they weathervane with the wind. When the good Bryce wind blows about once or twice a month we hear a lot from them. But they are always pro Bryce, they just don’t pipe up too much when he sucks. I can’t speak for them, as far as what they are looking at. In a second contingent, the collective mind is made up. He has had had basically three years worth of starts that might include a top tier outing or two, a few second tier outings, offset by about the same number of bottom tier outings which actually may have the edge there. The rest of his stuff is third tier and that is going to be the bulk of his starts. We want to move on. And we aren’t getting off of that hill until he puts us off of it. He has not. There is a third contingent that has no conviction and definitely weather vanes. Bryce is good. Bryce isn’t good. Depending on the latest game. They will buy into 7 on 7 success so that should tell you something.

I am talking Russell Wilson prayers. How many this year do you think? Whatever the number, fewer last year from my memory. Of course Bryce started off so well in 2024.

It definitely doesn’t work if you never do it. I have seen it about twice.

That is really what I thought they took him to do. At least a few.5050 balls downfield.

There is video somewhere of Tillis commenting on Wharton and knowing him in KC. Probably on the team site in one of those blueprint things or the like.

Neither.

It is possible to not blame him directly for the loss on Sunday, there were obviously some other big issues, and at the same time evaluate him as not cutting it overall. Ask me how I know.

Take Darnold and DJ Moore and All those draft picks and All that cap and draft capital dumped into the offense… Or Bryce?

Yeah I was crying about this earlier in the year when we got to 6 wins. Equal number to Wilks. We are still a QB away.

Well, looking at it now I would agree that he should cede some of his power and focus on being a leader of an entire NFL program and becoming a better strategist. And leave the details of implementing that to the people he has hired to work under him. But I am just some guy that gets his info 3rd hand and works off of incomplete info, using assumptions to draw conclusions.