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You are making assumptions that people expect another Cam to come along. I don’t think people do. I don’t expect that. Just a guy that isn’t physically less than the NFL standard for even an almost franchise QB. I do see his team believing on him somewhat. I don’t know how much of that is in the moment we won emotion and how much is deep belief. I also have seen guys throwing helmets and making public displays of frustration. Barely over a year ago. There needs to be a consistent and legit expectation and it needs to be do-able against stacked boxes when they shut down the running game and dare him to beat them through the air. He is not there at this time. IMO.

People? more than one whack job? You are going to need receipts for me to believe you. I read this place daily and have since he was here and before and cannot recall ever seeing that Maybe someone made a sarcastic comment but I have not seen a single comment to back that up. Sarcastic or real - just nothing ANYBODY ELSE?

How many comps even are there for him? Brees is not. Flutie? I struggle to get a 1 to 1.

I never wanted him. Have said why plenty. Mistake. Major mistake. But I am not completely unreasonable and went with the door is closed barring a major turnaround. I mean without a doubt turnaround. And not the Bryce fans bar for without a doubt, (they are there now) but my criteria. That means no opening quarter meltdowns no ridiculously bad ball security. In control and Getting those plays off and succeeding. His worst game still needs to have a redeeming series or two and some plays are still made. A sub par game still is competitive and doesn’t sink the team. We might still win (his normal/good game now). And those need to be rare. His normal game needs to actually show some real deal NFL ability. It needs to be good. And his great games need to rock.

What does make sense is a counter balance to that one dimensional concept. And if this is incorrect please correct me but the game winning drive doesn’t even have to be the last possession. It is pretty liberal in its definition.

Going against Peppers was pretty decent schooling.

I don’t see or am unable to see that QB room as something that Canales and Morgan came up with on their own. conspiracy theorist that I must be. The purpose was to not intimidate the shaky starter. And he did look confident Sunday in terms of his psyche, if that was the reasoning, it may have been okay. It is time for room to look towards development though

He did that lol yes he did. Bet he does not do it again. Rico said he called him to throw him get him the ball in case you didn’t hear. Fwiw.

I wanted Daniel Jones last year and said so out loud. I have wanted a lot of people other than our starter but definitely wanted him to get a shot here

It was discussed. I am one who believes Tepper laid down conditions and wanted immediate help for his draft baby. They had Theilen in place so do t take his position that is his stuff like that can happen. He is not loafing and has contributed with blocking and had a TD to help vs Miami. I don’t think he will be a complete bust. Under perform his draft position? Yeah he can join the club

I thought this was supposed to be his make or break year. The goalposts are on wheels.

Better than I could have said it

People are so quick to judge. Many of the anti Canskes people were probably hard against retread coaches too. We know he was hired too early We KNOW this rationally but somehow are not willing to suffer his mistakes while he tries to learn the job. I think he needs more time before judgement gets passed. Anyone in that position would.

poo has been constant since that trade was made in 2023. Long time. Every camel’s back has its limits

FTR I have never complained to a mod over a poster. To me that is like I am telling mama on you. Directly publicly berating someone who is out of line always worked better for me.

The thing is other players have been drafted to shifty rosters and you can see with little doubt that they have a bright future. I loved that game on Sunday and said so in several places. And said it was the QBs beat game to date. At the same time is it not true that that pass defense was ranked 32 of 32. So yes there was good and better execution but I don’t see why the book is written. At all. The term haters is a really bad use of thw word too. Skeptics. Non believers. Doubters That sort of stuff ia not prejudicial and inflammatory. thwy know that it is another instance of them doing stuff they claim they aren’t doing Do it and won’t own it - bad look and it undermines their credibility

I don’t remember the exact timeline of Baker but I feel like he was brought in late and started out behind the 8 ball a little bit to start with. Then he played maybe the worst opening quarter to start the season that we have seen in a long time if ever, pre Bryce.

The thing is, a random person makes a statement that few others would make and it gets transposed to the whole group. I vaguely remember the blaming Bryce for a punt return or missing a tackle, whatever it was, and saw that as satire, not literal, but people go off as if it was said in earnest, and then you get the putting it on the skeptics as a group. Again. And for you or anyone to say this doesn’t go both ways, it just makes you look totally biased.

That is how you see yourself, not necessarily how others see you.

If Canales comes back and Bryce doesn’t I would probably prefer to bring in 3 guys he likes from around the league or maybe outside a top ten pick and work through them, give that a shot. Because if we win a few more games we won’t be in the running for the top rated QB prospects anyway.

That one there, never did anything. It is always the other guy.

Who says that please? I have not seen it. Do people doubt his effective range? Yeah but no one says he can’t throw a pass 25 yards. That I have seen. People want more deep throws, for sure.

Well I will never knock a strong arm, in a vacuum, but it is a lot more than that to it. Did we kill our roster building and our defense in particular to stick PJ out there? No. We knew we sucked and he was really just a temporary thing too. While with Bryce I see the up and down, mostly down, roller coaster on loop now in year three. It has been a Looooong time. Lots of baggage. Back to strong arms, it is like having a powerful motor in a car. All the power in the world isn’t going to overcome a bad driver. But at the same time, even a decent driver with a killer car will beat the best driver if you put him in a go kart Exaggerating for effect, I know Bryce is not a go kart. Maybe closer to a 6 cylinder with not much displacement…..

That was tough. There was a sense he was pushing for an extension if I remember, and at the same time was pretty degraded physically from what he was when that contract was written. So if he wants a re-commitment at QB market value, what do you do? Without the benefit of hindsight, did you think he had any great years left in him at that time? To give him the rate of 30 million which I believe is what the better contracts had gotten to. I have sure disagreed with about everything done under Tepper including Rhule and then Bridgewater so I am not defending that, it was just a tough spot to be in. Watch NFL Redzone once in a while.

Whether you believe it is absurd or not, you can’t understand why people would feel that way?