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Well, buh bye Andy. Thanks for the Vegas game. If you had been able to play better maybe we wouldn’t still be stuck with Bryce. Good luck you are gonna need it.

Is he hurt? I don’t understand why he would make that decision otherwise.

Look at us play and tell me we are in a different era. We are old school. Team is being built old school. I get people mostly don’t use fullbacks any more, but then I don’t know why the hell we would need 4 TEs. And we are not going with a bell cow back system. Two backs, 1a&1b needed for 17 games. A QB that can’t run a sneak, now that is definitely not old school. I admit that. I would find somewhere to cut the roster by a player if we had a real short yardage guy.

I think we have before. I am not sure Dillon is the guy to carry, but he is the type of guy to carry. edit. Offhand, Davis, Foster, Hoover, Goings, Rod Smart. 5 count em, 5 RBs. I am gonna say with 17 games you might want to if you plan to be run heavy.

Bryce is better than Darnold between the ears? Really? I would love to see Young go into a new team with a new system and go straight to the Super Bowl. He is nowhere near as developed as Darnold is. He has only seen two very similar systems. He has quite a ways to go to catch up to what Darnold has been exposed to and had to absorb. Not to mention that Darnold is bigger, stronger, taller with better field vision and an arm that can attack a defense pretty much anywhere on the field. That is my opinion of course.

I don’t think it has a lot to do with him, really. Possibly insurance but he is a different type of back from what we already had. Not a high volume guy, more of a specialist. At least that is how I see him.

We have been doing that since Foreman. Since CMC has been gone. Chuba, I know. I think we could have a stalwart under a multi year for continuity and fill in around him. Hoping for more from Chuba this year though.

We badly need a role player that can pound the rock when we need a yard or two. And be an outlet receiver. Even if Brooks comes back we don’t have that short yardage guy.

I think they are closer to each other than in quite some time. The obvious upgrade needed on offense is get Qb play that doesn’t rank in the mid 20s. Granted WR and TE and probably C could be upgraded but a better QB might make what we already have, better. Even XL looked better with just Dalton. RB too, but we might have something there if Brooks can play. Defense we need some help for DB up front and another ILB and two or three more pieces. S, edge, cb.

I don’t know if he is the right one but he is exactly the type I think we should add. Short yardage guy that can catch. He doesn’t seem to be the most talented guy that ever suited up….

We might want to find someone to cover Sadiq when TB takes him.

I am only for it if we have extra picks to pay for it. We could stand to get up and get an actual 1st round talent but not at the expense of a third round pick this year. What I have been looking at is trading back in the 1st to pick up an extra 2nd or something. PS I think there are two or three accepted Trade Value charts. One was Jimmy Johnson’s. Most sites use that one I think.

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp 19 is valued at 875. 16 @ 1000 Our higher 5th round pick is @ 28.2 It would take our 3rd to really do anything with. Maybe the 4th plus a 5th. (Not really though, it only gets us to 17 ahead of Minnesota).

I didn’t even need numbers to know, but that is why I have been lobbying for a bruiser RB for two years. We need a short yardage bull. For me, what would help the offense more than a TE is that, and if can get one like Tolbert that can be a target within 5 yards either side of the LOS it would be a lot more useful. And if we can’t get a big boy that catches we still need a bull, and a pass catcher at RB.

And the 4th down attempts where he wasn’t used. Jets led the league with 41 4th down attempts, we had 40.

What other starting LOTs were out there? It kind of is what it is we did what we had to do. It really worked out as well as we could have hoped for.

Okay, so we have one 7th round badass. It happens, just not all that often. And, right there with you on the tackle pipeline.

I am using Kelce more as an example of what people think you get with a 1st round TE. 3 f the top 4 yardage guys of all time are 1st rounders. I think. But realize these would be the guys with super long careers, and/or top QBs throwing to them. We don’t have a top QB. And there have been Plenty of first round disappointments too. More of them than the all time leaders for sure. We were treating Bryce as the ultimate ‘don’t fug it up’ game manager in order to get a few of those 8 wins. And to stay close in some losses. 1st round picks, starting in 2023 that have been used on a WR or on the QB? 2023 1 (qb) 2024 2 (1 & 32) (qb, wr) 2025 1 (wr) When does it stop?

I just a couple of posts back corrected a guy saying that. You missed that? We gave the Bears a 3rd round draft pick for Olsen. He was not a FA. Why do so many people think he was?

It will be interesting to see how Willis operates. Being as we supposedly went through it with Bryce. Who got a total free pass despite looking horrible.

Except we traded a 3rd round pick to the Bears for him.

Made a few posts about it. Short version is we need to turn our OL over and get some rookie contracts in play. We can get the tackle money down now, and get ready to do it with the guards in a couple of years. When the tackles get expensive.

That is Fitterer level thinking right there. Maybe the player wanted out. They are in pretty bad shape down there with the cap and the prospects of winning are low

There are a couple of tells here. The big one is Green Bay didn’t want to pay his 2nd contract. Another is he sat there for a week almost, and we got him for half or even less than half of a projected yearly rate. In this day and age how many 7th round picks become top left tackles? We were in such a bad spot that this was our best option and we just need to hope they can work around his shortcomings.

Great QB play, yes. I am guilty of thinking we don’t have it so why bother with TE. I just get negative on things in general over it. But TE, and do they make the difference? I will say this, I forget what year it was, but KC was in the playoffs and people were playing them tight and when it came down to it they could not cover Kelce. No answer for him. So they can make a big difference. FWIW Kelce was a third round pick. I suspect you will find many famous successful TEs who were not 1st rounders. I am against using the 1st on Sadiq this year. But would welcome taking another shot if we can find a good bet later on.