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Chicken or the egg. The assignment is, MAKE them respect you and make them defend the whole field. They are telling you they don’t think you can do that. You have to force them to change. Our offense with Young is unable to do that. Just the way it is. Unless/until the passing game can extract payment, it will stay that way.

I bet he wanted to. But had hired people and made promises. They were there on his word. It ain’t that simple all the time, to just do what you want to do.

First of all, I don’t know about your definition of stupid there, but his shortcomings are glaring and provide more than enough ammo for criticism. I don’t need to say a WR missed a ball on their hands because it was a bad throw when it wasn’t. But sometimes it is a bad throw and not someone being stupid.

That was as plain as the defeated look on Frank’s face.

That is because of three years of enduring Bryce’s college ball in the NFL. Three years. Same issues. People are sick of it.

Uhh, stop the run and make Bryce beat you with his right arm. Odds are, he won’t. Well, once again, that paid off. You have most probably watched enough football to understand the concept and know how that works. And if you weren’t such a stan you would not be saying what you are saying. Next move would be to say yes I know, but the receivers suck so much and his line sucks so much and the coaches suck so much… I am really glad that this has finally been adopted by other teams, because it hammers the point home on an almost weekly basis so maybe some of these cement heads in charge will understand reality.

Maybe look at it from the other end… How many Panthers QBs have more crappy games than Bryce Young? Would you think anyone could match him? I am not going through all the research to compile that list, but I bet not a single one. Because if they were that bad, they were replaced before they could get the number up (down?) to compete. edit, PS. If you are old enough to know what a phone booth is, you can get this: it feels like we are trying to play inside of one with this guy at QB. That is how limiting he is.

Yeah yeah. Frank knew. Even suck ass Frank knew.

It wouldn’t take anything special to replace him. At all. He is not it. Two offensive coaching staffs have been twisted like a pretzel trying to figure out how to beat an NFL defense with him at QB. Getting rid of the coaches.. it will just be more of the same if you don’t get rid of him.

He would have been off the board. JR caught balls from Johnny Unitas. No way would he have a lil midget at the 1.1. It won’t work, he knew it.

Rico is the one that told Legette to lateral that ball to him way early in the year. Everyone blamed Legette and he did it yes, but it wasn’t his idea. Anyhow, Rico.. knowing that leaves the door open to wonder what he was thinking there. He won’t be back anyway, we were lucky to get what we got from him. And I appreciate his effort. Among the least of our problems.

I remember two main thoughts after Young’s first game vs Atlanta in 2023. Where was the urgency? Where was the downfield passing? 1 game. It took one game to expose it. 3 years later, same poo.

If y’all try and tell me the playbook isn’t limited by this QB…. Just don’t try it.

Ehhh, what might the ratings be on tomorrow’s Saints Falcons game if we win today?

I could fix that post for you. Just take out good and great and sub in average.

I’ll just be off the NFL altogether. Been a long time coming. Been hanging on with the Panthers but this thing with having to endure Bryce Young as my QB, they are prying my fingers loose from the ledge one at a time.

Can’t get a decent stream. And the game is lagging too. Just reminding we are patterned to win this week.

What are pork buns?

Yeah so what is the letter? I disagree with the concept of it, I like to stick with merit. And remind people that I wanted Wilks… not trying to hold anyone back, just it is so much of a rigged game in coordinator market with that kind of payoff sitting there to tilt the scales in an even race. Competition. But conceptually, if you are gonna take those kind of extreme measures you need to have a winner every now and then. Make it too hard to award those prizes, where is the incentive? If you are gonna do it set it up so some gets a payoff. I am not sure anyone has so far.

Great nutshell description (of his ceiling).

Yeah it is interesting. If contracts run through the league year that is March. Any HC will be hired well before. I tend to think the common sense application of this would need the coach to be a loss to the team. If he isn’t signed for next year then we suffer no loss. OTOH why institute something like this and be stingy with doling out the picks… the team did employ him as a DC for three seasons giving the platform to showcase his potential to move up.

I don’t think I can do another year of Bryce, much less two.

I wish I thought the team was full of sharks, that would operate this way. Man as far as blaming coaching… you can hire a great chef but if all he has is dog food for his ingredients, you are gonna get dog food. Do you blame the chef? When you give that chef some nicely marbled top grade beef, and it still tastes like dog food, then you blame the chef.

I disagree. Look, Carruth was a POS. She was a POS too, let’s face it. A stripper running an old game on him. The child was truly the only innocent there. He wasn’t innocent. She wasn’t innocent either. She just picked the wrong rich athlete. Play stupid games…. You don’t know what you are setting in motion. I can’t compare that to Fred Lane’s death. Free country we can disagree.

Hard salami provolone sliders/finger sandwiches dressed with tomato slice and mayo/vinaigrette concoction. Banana and cherry peppers are on hand. Onions. Whatever you want. And a bag of cheese puffs in a bowl. I guess with the Bucs it should be rum but fresh out. Beer and tequila. Coffee and water if you don’t drink.