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I expected to hear that, that’s fine. But it isn't even a little subliminal? You don’t discuss it. Anyway that is my thing to pick at.

The more I think of it the more I think a young CB needs to be in play. My real issue with your post is the complete lack of emphasis on LOT. You have it 5th on the offensive needs list. For me it is number one overall. I rank ILB very highly too. It is the worst mini unit we have on defense if not the entire team. I understand the pass rush argument but I look at Edge more as a short term problem because we have two we are developing and I certainly believe we need t9 draft more help. I would take a guy that could make an impact on a three year deal we can get out of after two. And draft another edge to develop. If we turn ILB into a strength I don’t see how the pass rush doesn’t benefit some, too.

Probably some kind of extension news. Or Nicole Tepper visits another local business.

This other thing though, speaks to me. It is a guy who is fully grown and mature going against 19, 20, 21 year olds in college. He gets to the pros and almost everyone is a full grown man. Only the rookies are sometimes a bit less. He had an advantage, now he is the rookie at the NFL level. What happens then?

I find that after all the decades of watching including 30 years as a Panthers fan the general emotion level has for sure dropped. I am way more detached and don’t go as nuts over different things that happen in the games. More matter of fact realist when looking at the team. Not sure exactly how to describe it. What I do still have is that weird thing where I feel better when we win and just blah when we lose. I don’t have the emotional attachment to the players I used to feel though. So many years of them going “it’s a business, I have to feed my family” I guess. I mean, you are getting 10 million but need 11 because you have to feed your family? Or a better example, 48 million for 4 years but you leave because someone offers you 49? STFU.

Yes the Icky thing really kills us this year with a 17.4 I think, million dollar hole, for nothing. His extension would likely have reduced his 2026 hit. But the extension was going to be massive. At the same time, the massive extension money is largely freed up now and can go elsewhere. There is just no way he should be in line for the same payday as pre injury. I say largely freed because maybe we can do a little hollowed out extension to give him a window to get back and stay with the team past this year. Snap count and/or other incentives for 2027. Something that leaves the door open for him to get a fresh contract that reflects his value moving into 2028. Whatever that proves to be. We’d have a lot of that money that was earmarked for his extension available to us starting next year.

I would have done it simply because I am wary of Horn’s concussions. If we could have gotten away from that, we should have. There is a chance we lose him for nothing.

Who did he ever have for a QB? Hope he has enough left to take advantage of being in this position.

It is the QB for the defense. People that devalue the position are not doing it right.

Yes one from each market. edit: Wallace is depth afaic until he proves otherwise. We need two starters.

We need two. Most teams are just upgrading or refinancing one. This looks good for exactly what I was hoping we could do which is a ready to go vet and draft a guy with maybe even a higher ceiling.

It went straight to the front of the line for me. But I’m not sure we could get true plug and play talent at 19. There is maybe a decent option in FA but the money just compounds the imbalance. I looked here: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers Without specifying details, Icky, Lewis, Hunt and Moton are right at 80 million dollars. No C accounted for. Walter from Green Bay is estimated at 4 years 88 mil. I just don’t know how you could do that unless you will maybe get Moton and even Hunt off the books ASAP. Moton looks like he doesn’t have a lot of time left playing well. The legs… We have to figure something out. If they were really going to go young at C RG and RT they could work it I guess so that they could get Walker and take a Moton 2027 replacement guy and a C and be done with the OL for a while.

All I remember is he talked a good bit of smack to Cam and backed it up most of the time. Irritating fuger.

I saw that between him and DJ the Bears saved 31.5 mil in cap. I was sort of thinking DJ might end up in Seattle with Darnold but they got him out of the conference. Re Edward’s, the more in the pool the merrier. Also I said somewhere that DJ was still productive last year. I don’t follow the Bears really. I probably checked in for his best game and assumed. Under 700 yards. Got 1300+ yards Fields’ last year, 1000+ Williams’ rookie year, and now I am remembering that he advocated for Fields. Lol. Makes me think Williams and him probably never warmed up to each other and he is better off now than he has been in a while.

And re McD, they had missed the playoffs for a lot of consecutive years. I don’t remember offhand but something like 11 or 13. They were back in, in year 2. Brady had him here so there is familiarity both ways which is helpful.

I hear that. They were committed to extending him though. The timing of this just sucks. It could suck worse but it isn’t good.

Well, C is a choice they may have made (not settled yet). LOT was just dropped on them and they have to address it. It ain’t fun or sexy but it kind of became priority 1. IMO it is 1. I am concerned they will throw too much money at Lloyd who multiple teams will pursue. But the draft looks like it aligns with our defensive needs pretty well. PS, we are said to have some interest Buffalo’s C, McGovern. The Athletic says he is probably going for 3 years 13 per. Number two ranked FA C. Seen as an upgrade from Mayes. If they did that then you have LOT to draft. Maybe.

Be like getting Roman Harper. (A hated Saint) But, it might be worth it for the 2 Saints games alone if they let him walk.

The Athletic just put out a top 150 FA list. Mayes is the 3rd ranked C @ 36 overall. 36 is a pretty good ranking. I have seen us linked to the #2 which is 22 overall, the Bills’ C McGovern. At LOT 12 overall is the Packers LOT Rasheed Walker who they praise but estimate him to get 4 years 88mil There is really not much I kept moving down through a couple of ROTs and stopped looking. Gotta hand it Green Bay they got 48 starts @ LOT from a 7th rounder. But now he is getting paid. Be great if we could pull that off but we don’t have a year or year and a half to groom a 7th rounder.

I am not looking at his stats but thought he was still productive this year. Looked at a couple of their box scores.

Didn’t know that but generally realized he is getting up there in miles.

I couldn’t say. Wasn’t keeping up. Just going off of them getting a good return suggested that someone was creating some demand.

You go with what you know. I really don’t think this, in a vacuum, is a bad move for them. You got Brady who had him here, they can get on the same page pretty quick probably.

I would guess someone else was probably pursuing him too.

I was trying to come up with a retort but I can stop now.