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Okay 80 guaranteed that looks like we could get out after two years maybe. Three for sure. I guess he is one side, Scourton the other. now draft a guy a little later to be coming on in year three.

They have been pretty good at staying stealthy.

Good lord. 30 million per and not to a QB. I guess tme for me to brush up on some video.

Often is off the board. Re- signed.

Let’s not forget the immortal Dick Trickle.

Well, I wish they’d get on with it. Understanding the league year start is still days away, but some cuts or something.

If Penix ever rushes for two short yardage TDs, I know what my headline would be.

When you figure it may have been a good time to invest in one in the draft, you lose your LOT out of nowhere. That hope of a ten year starter at C has to get back in line

47 catches 1000 yards, barely. 114 million? Man.

Double Penixtration.

Especially with the Buffalo C off the board. Besides Linderbaum he is the top guy. Think he’s gone.

If you are saying Tillis wanted Wharton, that is what I thought too. The KC connection.

Good point but did Michael pay his dues like Dan has by being a grunt in a personnel/scouting wing of an NFL team? (He has worked at this for years, Jordon wrote a check. still, I hear you) I expect more from Dan when it comes to defense, and especially linebacking.

I’m just saying. That is where things are with the media and the fan speculation. I pretty much agree with you. We do have Luke and Morgan that have some knowledge. I mean, I can’t imagine a world that Dan and Luke haven’t had some conversations. Along with our coaches. They might surprise us. I would be with most others, very disillusioned with Morgan if he fugs up the LB decisions.

I never feel good after reading it. It only fulfills me if I keep it strictly to music, sports, specific interests that have no overlap with any current events. Which is hard to do. But it can be done. That is why I like a message board that is a one trick pony. This one is about the Panthers and NFL ball. I have a favorite music one, fishing and boating, according to my interests.

Okay but I didn’t say anything about 21 million. Lloyd is the people’s choice for one of the top handful of FA targets. A star. I said starting level. Lots of names with lower prices fit that description

We have absolutely been short sighted. Fixated on weapons for Bryce mostly. And that stupid fuging trade to 1.1, all those picks. It cuts your options down so bad. And as bad as it was, we made it worse by creating a huge hole where there wasn’t one with DJ Moore. How many picks were spent trying to fill that hole? Combine them with the picks sent to Chicago…. it’s bartender give me another…. I think it was highly likely that they used a later pick on OT in this draft due to Moton’s situation, before the Icky stuff. We can’t know now.

We don’t know that yet. And, I am hoping a diamond is in the draft, whoever they sign. To me the idea is get a starting level pro, and draft his sidekick who hopefully will outshine him in year two. That doesn’t mean pay the star though.

Sounds like biz as usual is wtf. I was kind of out on Geno anyway, after last season. Also hoping for younger with a possible future. And lord forbid Bryce would have to worry about a guy waiting for him to fug up. So, maybe don’t fug up. Simple. That is the idea.

I have looked at this Lloyd thing a little sideways since I learned the Jags didn’t pick up the 5th year. But I haven’t looked at film of him or anything. It doesn’t much matter what I see, they have not listened to me once in 30 years. I see these little warning signs, as no joke. Someone needs to dig into the why of all that and I can only hope we have.

I think quality ILB play would put this defense in a much better place. I don’t want to see what we have been forced to see the last couple of years. Will it be the Steel Curtain or something? Course not. It won’t be our 2003 team. But it will be a legit defense.

Yep. What Mr C said. We have alignment. I guess at 8 taking true BPA made a lot of sense. It is unlikely that we’ll be looking at the same gap between need and BPA at 19. Be a little easier to pass and trade down and match our value to our needs. IMO. I care very little about having a shiny 1st round TE, give me a tackle or help the defense.

I’m not sure he was a fit anyway.

That’s the thing. You Have to fix the line. He has enough around him or will by the time the draft is over to work with. Plenty. If he is the guy, he can work with the players he’s been given. What we can’t do, absolutely cannot do, is build in an excuse for bad play or lack of growth. We’ll fuging pay for that, probably for more long years.

That’s crazy. That is probably most undeserving inclusion I can remember. I am kind of rooting for him, but I would’t dream of advocating for him and using ‘he made the pro bowl!’ that’s for sure. I am not really advocating, just for whatever reason am pulling for him - I guess because he was treated so badly. Despite his silver spoon background.