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As I understand a comeback: first you have to achieve and then be bad - then you can come back to achieving at your previous good level. Come back. He can go most improved.

I messed up my quotation of CPF4LIFE but there it is now lol Yeah. I concur. That Pro day was eye opening. Running start was there. See, I quit spending so much time on looking at NFL players for Panthers drafts until I just said, forget it. It doesn't matter what I think, and I don't really watch college ball any more and don't want to put time into it. Point being I had no preconceptions from 2021 or even 2022 or any of it. No positive bias to reinforce what he did that day. And I decided that I needed to look, so I looked. That pro day, man. I couldn't believe people liked it. on that kind of level

He was putting everything he had into it too. He looks better now but what would Luke or Showboat Ray Lewis be thinking about facing him?

Those 150 yards per season, every one of those yards is.... huge. Well worth it. He must be the ultimate locker room guy.

I gotta say, it is difficult to not express my true opinion of this year's use of our 1st, 1st round pick. The small investment to double down bothers me less, but if it were to bust that would for sure suck.

Maybe but it's probably more his tightened up mechanics because it ain't exactly a major change in velocity.

It is the only thing you can do. College ball on Sundays. Boola boola.

Most of these known name y'all are dropping were vested vet status guys and were released, they weren't subject to waivers.

The Matthews thing may be twofold. Giving him a chance to get a spot before they’re filled up, and he would be taking snaps they want to give Sanders maybe?

I remember too. He got into Maser’s doghouse somehow and never got out. The WR thing, maybe that is still fluid and there will be even more releases.

And that is fair enough to to say. Also fair to say, I think, that the dynamics of Stroud with the people in place in May of 2023 would have made for a better situation than Young had. And that is not really exclusive to Stroud, it is a stylistic type of thing. We had pros used to coaching the more classic mainstream types. Caldwell, Manning. Reich and the types he signed. All the talk about fit that goes on in the league… but they did not use that with the QB. You have to accommodate. I still think having a full year on film and a full offseason to prepare gives any staff a better situation that what there was last year. I think Canales is going to be a good thing in the long run but he already is doing better. I don’t care if they get shut out week one he is still doing better .

They’re forgetting, they don’t cut you in Chicago they shoot you.

I used to say that about Darnold. I think he is 27 now. Still in the league though.

It’s always pass blocking holding the young ones up.

Bryce’s hand was in it too. He does look better. It has to translate through pressure and speed and hitting that is gonna get stepped up. All that time he had against Buffalo, he’ll still have that some but it damned sure will be less frequent. Especially when the DL stunts and blitz packages escalate. He will definitely have to have that 2 sec timer going and I am still pretty concerned about his foot speed outside of the pocket.

I think, if you mean (edit) selecting him in particular or taking a RB in general… in particular I think it is another concession to the near field passing game, he does what they want do do. It is all about the QB. Was, still is. That is it, period. If I get to guess. I am a hard no on a RB in the 1st, no doubt. Also no trading future year selections. Within the year I don’t worry about it too much because you do not win them all and really, you don’t always know which one you will win on. I am not sweating it yet. Probably will not sweat anything until they talk about giving him a long term deal at big money… if they ever do.

The exception would prove the rule on that one. Excellent point except you almost have to do just that most of the time. The value part is often overrated though, about where you pick a guy because if you want him he may not be there when your next turn comes. Most of the time, there is your decision. (I don’t think in this case he would have lasted a lot longer) Then when he is still there halfway through the round after you passed, it really gets tempting. And if you look at it a certain way, RBs being a dime a dozen sort of allows you to gamble on one you think is special. We’ve got four basically nobodies and the RB roster is not a real worry. I feel like things tend to balance out too, like if you misjudge a player high a lot of times you guess right on a 5th rounder or something. Sometimes it offsets.

They are probably all thinking. New coach new offense.

Aside from being a speculative complaining tool, that is a true thing though. One offseason and they are usually no longer college players. And I harp on that pretty hard when people get on the SEC bandwagon. There is a difference. It applies to 9 of 10 guys (just a guess with no assembled facts to support it). Applying it to Legette, those guys he outmuscled in school will be harder to outmuscle in the league.

That is true. Not directed at you specifically but people,would do well to remember that that is true for the entire 1st team offense.

They obviously plan on him taking the main role, moving forward into this new offense. At the very least, get him some reps in a real game so he knows what that is. Health allowing.

We don’t know anything really, though I will grant the assumption we wouldn’t have made the playoffs. Do you think they would have felt they had to change the offense three times for him? I will grant myself the assumption of no, and that we would have been much better off.

I didn’t see people hanging in all over him, a well placed ball would have gotten a completion on several plays - assuming he catches it.

If his knee is healthy it is healthy. When it is is healed it is healed. Infuriating as it may be for him to get a new injury or the repair not hold up, you would at least know that you couldn’t count on the player before spending an offseason believing he was good to go.. it does happen to players through no one’s fault. Bodies are unique.

I take the view that he needs to get back out there and get some action and build some confidence in his repaired knee. Not saying to rush anything, but there is stuff that can be accomplished this year that will set him up for 2025. Plus we need to see him before next year to see what we really have. Will he be healthy? There is a chance no, I guess. You won’t be 100% sure until you see him going good and hard.