LinvilleGorge

Any vet QB with other options is going to choose another option, just like Stafford.

It won't hold. We'll pull some late season W out of our ass to tank our draft position and save Rhule's job. It's the Panthers way.

It'll be the first move he's gotten right as an NFL owner.

I'm gonna be honest, the biggest reservation I have about firing Matt Rhule is that David Tepper will be heavily involved in hiring his replacement.

Reporting to duty, sir!

He absolutely needs to go. He's taken enough of a beating without pay. Love that kid.

Don't quote me but Howell isn't a lock to enter the draft. I'm hearing mom is pushing him to go but he wants to play another year at UNC. He doesn't want to end on this note.

If he wants OU I don't see them waiting around to see if he finishes faceplanting. Tepper just needs to tell him to pursue it. Dude is trash in the NFL. Hell, he very well may prove to be trash at the high NCAA level.

Without financial discipline you're fuged no matter what. That's why so many lottery winners go broke. Millions won't save you from sheer idiocy.

Shiiiiiiii... I have an 800+ credit score and money is practically free right now. Take all that old "pay cash for everything and finance as little as you can" advice and throw it out the window in recent years. You can get better return on that cash than you're gonna pay on interest. Strategic debt is not a bad thing at all as long as you have financial discipline.

Does Venables even want to be a HC? I think he's the highest paid assistant coach in college football. He makes more than most head coaches.

I've honestly lost interest until Rhule and company are gone.

What we had was trash. What we have is flaming dog poo.

Yep. There was a very clear shift when we got to 3-0 and Fitts and Rhule started strutting around talking about the playoffs as if we were already in them. Now we've traded away a good chunk of next year's draft and ate up a good chunk of once very good cap situation starting next year. Right now we seem to be at rock bottom but as the panic sets in at Panthers headquarters, keep an eye out for signs of continued digging.

Matt Rhule's success in college includes getting beat by every ranked team he ever faced, save for the two times he ran into ECU and Navy teams that just luckily happened to be ranked that week and then turned the ball over like crazy in those games. Rhule's college "success" is massively overrated. He took bad programs and built them to the point they could beat other bad teams. He never proved he could get a team over that hump of actually being able to beat good teams.

We need to take heed of this lesson. Move on from Rhule to take the next step forward.

Are you 12?

Points allowed per drive has nothing to do with the offense. We're worst in the NFL by a significant margin.

You were the one that quoted my post then acted like you didn't know what I was talking about.

And it's not just because of turnovers or the offense not being able to stay on the field. We are allowing the most points per drive in the NFL by a significant margin.

How do you not know what this is? Go back and look at the post you originally replied to.

Oh wait, I see what's going on here... you were one of the 23 poo'ers.

The defense he built has gotten wrecked by two mediocre at best offenses the last two games and is now middle of the pack in points allowed.

Remember when I got poo'd to death for saying that I doubt Rhule ends up working out after he traded significant assets for Sam Darnold a year after throwing significant money at Teddy Bridgewater? I remember.

UNC was a top 10 preseason team. Without Sam Howell, we'd have two maybe three wins.