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Dan Forest is going all around NC campaigning. Not a mask in sight. He was in my hometown today. The local state senator was posting the pics. I'd say it would be hilarious if he got the rona except for the high likelihood that he would be a super spreader.

You're not making any sense. We find them by them dying?

Why do you think the majority of people are getting tested? It's not just for shots and giggles. These people are largely developing symptoms and seeking testing. The symptoms are new because they're newly sick - a.k.a. new cases. The dip in cases is directly correlated to fewer tests, it's not due to a smaller percentage of positive tests just like the increased number of tests months ago wasn't the primary cause of the rise of the number of cases since rates of positive tests also increased.

You can't be this dumb.

If you understand data the answer is right there in the link.

Remember when the increase in new cases was being blamed on more testing? Well, the data refuted that claim but here recently, the opposite has been true. The dip in new cases seems to be directly correlated to less testing. https://mobile.twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1291140412711690240/photo/1

The mayor of Morganton is hospitalized with COVID. https://morganton.com/news/local/morganton-mayor-hospitalized-after-covid-19-diagnosis/article_2204c978-d76f-11ea-8701-07b0b1a19a8a.html#tracking-source=home-breaking

Probably not entirely, but certainly managed down to the point that contact tracing would have a fighting chance. Contract tracing really isn't all that useful for the population bad a whole when the virus is widespread.

Bingo.

They posted that while the guy was literally dying. That's the insane level of politicization that has been achieved. What a bunch of morons.

Of course Trump will try to politicize the vaccine(s) if one or more get approved prior to the election even if they don't come from the U.S. (like the Oxford vaccine). It's the only chance he has at this point. It's only people like you with room temperature IQs who buy into this type of politicization.

An echo chamber of people seeking out data and qualified opinions instead of conspiracies and wild, largely baseless opinions! Agh!!!! Run away! LOL!

The biggest issue with the Detroit HCQ study was that it was found that patients who received HCQ were also more likely to have received steroid treatment (dexamethasone is a steroid), potentially skewing the results and falsely attributing outcomes to HCQ treatment. For the "it's all about the money" crowd, dexamethasone is relatively cheap and is available as a generic.

What is your primary motivation for that stance based on the specific parameters you laid out (4 days into symptomatic illness)? Be honest now.

You would decline it? I would ask the doctor why he/she is prescribing that particular medicine. It's a question I often ask doctors who are wanting to prescribe a drug to me. Why? Why that particular medicine? Based on the Yale doctor's stance and the results of clinical trials, four days into feeling ill is likely too late in the disease process for hydroxychloroquine to make a significant difference and there are likely better options available at that point.

If they don't die everything is fine, right? I mean, that's the crux of the COVID is a hoax thinking, right? If you don't die, it was minor case. Listen, I don't care if Trump was touting it or not. The bottom line is that more and more sources are lining up suggesting that it isn't a very effective treatment. A pretty extensive trial just wrapped up in Brazil and it failed. I don't think Brazilian medical professionals are likely to be swayed by pro or anti Trump motivations. Maybe there are certain conditions where it can be more effective. https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydroxychloroquine-flunks-phase-iii-trial-in-mild-to-moderate-covid-19/

Sigh... even in your "gotcha posts" you display stunning lack of understanding. The heart issue hydroxychloroquine causes is ventrical cardiomyopathy. This can cause people to literally (as you sarcastically said) to drop dead with a heart attack. A common symptom of this issue is arrhythmia. Those people with severe autoimmune diseases that you're so downplaying who take hydroxychloroquine are constantly monitored for developing cardiomyopathy.

There are clinical studies linking hydroxychloroquine and heart issues dating back to at least 2013. This isn't a new finding in the least. You really have to stop just parroting right wing talking points without doing even the bare minimum of cross checking the info.

Do you really need this explained? Humans and cows share 80% of the same genome.

The only way I'll see that CNN or Fox sensational headline is if one of you post the link to it.

Very early use of hydroxychloroquine. Who knows, he very well could be onto something. What's certain is your motivation for latching onto his opinion. It's hilarious how you've made a judgement regarding my overall political philosophy based on one very specific issue, one that shouldn't be politicized but has been because it's 2020 in America and EVERYTHING must be politicized and it's because of winger nut jobs like yourself and the majority of the TB posters.

Continue your obsession then. Just don't pretend to be a reasonable, rational, and intelligent person. You're not interested in truthful information. You're just interested in narratives that fit your chosen worldviews and anyone who disagrees is wrong and so is their data. Tuning out major network media is not the same as being ignorant. Honestly, you're probably better off being ignorant than you are constantly slurping down information that reinforces your preexisting confirmation biases.

You call me a lost cause and yet here you are just continuing to harp about the media. I don't want to talk about the media. I don't care about their stance on this or anything else for that matter. I don't pay attention to it. I suggest you should too. It seems as if it's causing a borderline obsession issue with you. This is what I mean when I talk about political desperation. You believe so strongly that certain outlets are deeply incorrect and/or intentionally misleading that you're fully willing to buy into anything to the contrary, regardless of how idiotic the premise may be. It's confirmation bias to the extreme playing out in real time. Turn the stuff off. Tune it out.