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My clued in Giants fan Buddy says #3 is Carter's floor. If he's there they're taking him.

Every draft we have people talking about how all the guys worth picking will be gone and how none of these guys are special, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, history says that there will be hall of famers drafted after pick #8 this year.

One FG in the last 11 minutes is a crazy stat.

You only have 30 official prospect visits to use.

If he's just a rotational player then we massively overpaid him.

But, but, but... this guy with 4.5 career sacks sure looks and works out like he SHOULD be a player!!!

No clue. All I know is that he seems to like playing a lot of two high safety looks and I don't know how this guy fits that.

Definitely baffling. I have no idea why you're paying a safety big money in today's NFL when he's a liability in coverage. The era of the undersized LB at safety is over. The only way it works is if you run a cover three scheme and you have a Earl Thomas or Ed Reed caliber player at FS. And even then I think you're best served to try to use that in the box SS as a position to save cap space. You're not trying to pay that guy. You just want a "check the box" player there because that type of player isn't highly sought after (or at least shouldn't be) in today's NFL.

I wouldn't hate the pick. I'm honestly not sure why he hasn't been talked about as a potential guy to go higher. People are talking about him being a one year wonder but he had 8.5 sacks two years ago as a sophomore. The two sack junior season is definitely eyebrow raising and I'm sure teams will be watching the hell out of that film to figure out why he had that massive dip.

If we don't have two in Tershawn Wharton and Tre'Von Moehrig then we made two big ass mistakes in free agency. If those signings pan out we should have at least four core players on D in Brown, Horn, Wharton, and Moehrig. I would consider Jackson at CB as a "potential". Same with Trevin Wallace at LB.

There's no way I'm trading up in this draft with all of our roster needs, period. We don't need one star. We just need a talent infusion across the board.

Yeah. I get pointing out that we're light on core talent on D but those folks too often overlook that if you're approaching our receivers and TEs it's the same story. Chuba Hubbard is our star offensive skill positions weapon. Oh wee mayne.

Plenty of top tier NFL pass rushers weren't considered generational talents. Micah Parsons was a tweener drafted outside the top 10. Nik Bonitto was a 2nd rounder. Trey Hendrickson and Jonathan Greenard were 3rd rounders. Maxx Crosby was a 4th rounder. I'm not really pounding the table or sounding the alarm (outside of Shemar "looks like Tarzan plays like Jane" Stewart) for anyone this year I just hope we end up with a really good player at #8.

Who are the core players at the offensive skill positions?

I was talking about Shemar Stewart in that post. He ain't never put poo together. He's never had more than 1.5 sacks and 31 tackles in a season.

Did you quote the wrong post? LOL

There's no questioning his athletic traits. There's nothing but questions about his actual football abilities though. His film is littered with plays where he gets around or through the blocker immediately just to run around (very fast) aimlessly all the whole having a clear path to the ball. His film screams "amazing athlete who just isn't a football player".

The iconic photo of how Cooper "Better Than Melo" Flagg's college career will ultimately be remembered. The caption will read, "He came up short."

Just remember, after the draft we have a couple of weeks to bicker about the picks we did and didn't make any then basically nothing for months. Well, hopefully nothing. Pretty much any football related news between May and July is gonna be bad news.

I'd rather take this guy than some workout warrior who never had 2+ sacks in an entire season let alone a game.

Saw duke lost. Maybe all that effort to act like Flagg was better than Melo was a tad premature.

I like Carter a lot but after this years draft we will have dug ourselves out of the Bryce trade draft capital hole. Let's not celebrate that by picking up the shovel and starting to dig again.

No. You probably talking about trading #8, #57, and next year's 1st. Fug all of that. Fug that hard.

People who didn't watch him look pretty pedestrian against a top shelf D in PSU then went back and looked to see that most of his gaudy stats were piled up against mediocre at best competition.