LinvilleGorge

Look through the entire franchise history. When you have most 30 years of history and you're left clinging to a handful you've done terribly overall.

You don't even have to go cherry pick highlights. You can turn on any given NFL game and see multiple throws that Bryce Young is simply not capable of making.

Mac Jones is the only other starting QB I'd even consider putting in the "Bryce tier" of arm strength and I still think that's probably unfair to Jones. His arm is definitely subpar but I still think it's better than Bryce's.

It's wild to me to sit here and watch otherwise seemingly reasonable, decently intelligent people still try to deny that Bryce Young has a serious arm strength deficiency in the NFL. I was telling y'all this a year ago.

Y'all gotta let the college tape go or at least see it for what it is. Every throw where Bryce looks to show decent arm strength he has a ton of room to step into the throw and follow through. Yes, our OL sucked but watch other games. Watch other QBs still generate velocity and drive the ball even when under pressure. Hell, watch Andy Dalton do it in Seattle in our offense. THAT is what Bryce can't do. If you need everything to go perfectly in order to create velocity and/or go downfield you aren't an NFL QB. Pockets are usually muddy in the NFL. Those NFL defenses are actually pretty good too. You're not able to stand around and do your taxes while waiting on one of your future NFL WRs beats the brakes off of a future PE teacher like you could at Alabama. Don't forget, people had to create this hilarious narrative that Bryce was having to carry inferior talent at ALA-fuging-BAMA in order to explain some of the shortcomings that were clearly apparent in his college film. If you gotta make lack of surrounding talent excuses for an Alabama player... oh wee mayne.

Probably about the same as Rhule. They'll get two years and if there isn't significant improvement early in in year three their fate will likely be sealed. I think that's about all the patience Tepper has. That's assuming they aren't tied to saving the super processor. If they are they're fuged from jump street. Enjoy those severances.

I could see that. If some team liked him in the draft and thinks there might be something salvageable there throw out a conditional late rounder to secure him and if he doesn't make the roster it cost you nothing anyway.

Yeah, we've basically drafted three quality receivers in the history of the franchise. I mean, KB and LaFell probably round out the top 5. Yikes.

Prior to that even. The Panthers have always sucked at drafting WRs.

Most of the ire at Thielen came from him not being a true #1. Well, no poo. He was signed to be the slot receiver and a second if not third tier target. It's not Thielen's fault that everyone else sucked. He excelled beyond expectations in his role.

Unfortunately there's ample film of him being terrible on an NFL field. I'd rather draft a 6th or 7th round rookie than trade the pick for someone who has already proven himself terrible.

It's pretty wild how terrible this franchise has been at drafting WRs. By far the best WR in franchise history was a mid-round pick drafted in large part for his abilities as a returner.

Quarter it and debone it in the field. No doubt about it, it would've sucked and the specific geography of the pack out would've played a big role in whether or not I would've taken a shot had the opportunity presented itself.

Pretty much.

We're to the point with Tepper's team that everyone is just going to assume that it's going to be an abysmal failure until proven otherwise and to be fair it's a well earned expectation.

And usually when a guy has 4 fouls he has to really earn #5. I don't recall the specifics of every foul on him but #4 and #5 were both ticky tack bullshit and I doubt any of the five were more egregious than the one they missed on RJ's final shot.

The way Cadeau was officiated in that game was baffling. Not just that he picked up 5 fouls in the span of about 10 minutes in the second half but the non-calls. He got hammered with no call on a couple of drives and was blatantly pushed off on twice on drives that even had the announcers saying... like damn man, that's a foul. lol

I hate the killing. If I ever stopped hating it I'd go seek help. I mean, I hate it to the point I've actually considered stopping eating meat myself and I honestly think that if you're not willing to do the killing you should stop eating meat. Just because the blood isn't on your hands literally doesn't mean it's not on you're hands figuratively. The actual process of hunting, the scouting being out there, etc? I fuging LOVE it. I used to do a 4 day solo backpacking elk hunt every year in CO. I need to start doing it back here. There's plenty of places in the western NC national forests to do it. There was one year in the Flat Tops when my daughter was a young toddler that it was BRUTAL. They were calling for cold temps but they were calling for single digits at night and hovering around freezing during the day. Uh... wrong. It got to -20 at night and didn't break the teens during the day. You know it's cold when 15 feels downright balmy and has you soaking up the "warmth". I honestly didn't think I was gonna be able to tough that one out. Didn't even get an elk. Conditions were impossible. There was about 10" of snow on the ground with a freeze/thaw ice sheet on top that sounded like a .22 rifle shot with every step. Getting around was exhausting. The ice sheet would almost support your weight just to have your feet go crashing through as you took a step. But damn it was beautiful. I'll always remember that hunt even though it was completely and utterly unsuccessful in acquiring meat but was a raving success in terms of getting the mental reset I crave out of disappearing into the mountains for a few days.

TV Teddy, man. I have no idea how he's maintained a job. But the ACC consistently has the worst refs in the game, basketball and football alike.

Jersey is too light of a shade of blue evidently.

We played like poo and they played by far their best game of the year but we still got fuged.

Blatant foul. Just wow.

Got hammered. No call. fug it. Take it out on dook.

And Elliott Cadeau must have fuged one of these refs daughters last night. They did that kid wrong.