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The only similarity is the college team they play(ed) for. The entire staff and schemes have changed over since Trubisky played. I became a true believer in Howell during the bowl game this year. He went up against the best defense in the SEC who had no bowl game opt outs and were looking to prove they had been snubbed from the playoffs, meanwhile his #1 WR and both 1000 yard RBs opted out. He still looked like Sam Howell despite multiple bad drops and predictably virtually no running game what so ever.

I wanted Sweat and absolutely did not want Gary. I thought Gary screamed bust. The measurables and production were just too far off.

Not sure which poll you're looking at. I'm seeing them ranked the previous week but dropping out of the rankings after losing their 2nd game of the year to an unranked Texas Tech prior to facing Baylor.

A lot of people didn't like it, but I did simply because our OL coach at the time was Oher's OL coach in Baltimore early on in his NFL career when he looked promising. His play dropped off after Matsko left.

Yep. We've repeatedly thrown trash at the wall. Oher turned out to be a really good signing. Sucks that concussions derailed his career. He seems to be getting his life together off the field at least after it looked like he was starting to go down a bad road. That's good to see. Then we paid the bad Kalil stupid money hoping that money would make him a better player. Shockingly, that didn't work out. Then Hurney over-drafted a guy in Greg Little who looked atrocious at the Combine and who very well may have been looking at a Deonte Brown type draft slide except for Hurney thinking he was outsmarting everyone. That turned out predictably.

Penn State was unranked.

They made their living doing exactly that in college. The problem is that this isn't college. And it's worth noting that their record against actual good (top 25) competition in college was abysmal. I think when I looked it up that the only two top 25 teams Rhule ever beat were ECU and Navy. Every other time he faced a top 25 team he lost.

RBs have a huge advantage in the YAC category simply because they catch so many passes behind or near the LOS. Most passes to RBs are basically extended handoffs.

I'm honestly surprised he didn't follow Rivera to WFT or McDermott to Buffalo for his scouting job. I mean, virtually everyone in the Panthers' organization he had connections to are gone now.

I don't think we'll need "decent" to upgrade our depth. Simply not atrocious might end up being enough.

Yep. Seems like a great dude. He's just not an NFL talent. It's amazing what he was able to accomplish at WVU. Hats off to that staff based on what I've seen from him outside of that system. When we drafted him, I didn't hate the pick. I didn't particularly like it, but I thought he'd end up being one of those good backup/marginal starter types. Nope. He's terrible by NFL standards. Not NFL starter standards, NFL third stringer standards.

Larry Allen strong, probably not. Hell, Larry Allen might be the strongest man in NFL history where pretty much every lineman is straight up freak of nature strong. But Deonte Brown is REALLY strong. Derrick Brown is freakishly strong and there's a video that I can't find right now of Deonte Brown pretty much picking him up and escorting him five yards downfield like he was a child when they were both in college.

Larry Allen He was elite on the '80s. Hell, one of the GOATs. He'd be a borderline roster player today.

He's really not mobile at all, especially in space.

If Mills and/or Mond had still been available in the early 3rd where we drafted Christensen that would've been interesting. I had both pegged as potential 3rd round targets and they both came off the board in the picks leading up to ours.

I'd honestly forgotten about Brown. Thanks for the reminder. That particular pick was a bit of a head scratcher for me. We'd mainly been focusing on versatility and movement skills with our OL moves prior to that, then we picked a guy who plummeted down the board specifically because he lacked movent skills. In a phone booth, I'd pick Brown over just about anyone in the NFL, but the modern day game is rapidly moving toward spread style offenses that largely negate that style of play. Hence why he was available at that point in the draft.

I just think we're shy on talent on the OL. I just don't think there's a great deal of actual ability in the room. We're in a situation of hoping the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. So if you're not going to be very good, be able to be not very good at a multitude of different roles. I was honestly surprised to see us only draft one OL.

I think Moore can likely flex between all three IOL positions. That would greatly help his case.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with the rental market when evictions start back full force. There's just not enough mortgages in trouble for foreclosures to make a big dent in the market IMO. But if there's all of a sudden lots of vacancies in the rental market with a shortage of well qualified renters, that'll be an interesting scenario. That could drive rent downwards and cool the demand on the real estate market by decreasing demand from landlords or would-be landlords. Then again, there's so much big corporate money in play right now I'm not sure that's likely to matter either. There are some big corporate interests with long-term plays to basically try to turn America into a renter society. They don't care if they overpay significantly today. They know they're still going to win big in the long run.

Yep and versatility seems to be the biggest focal point this off-season with our staff and the OL.

Not necessarily. Locker room impact comes into play. Coachability comes into play. If both guys are liabilities and we're talking about pocket lint in terms of cap implications, I'm going with the more coachable guy who is best in the locker room. At the end of the day, I think there's a decent chance that there's at least one OL on our final roster that comes off the waiver wire when other teams start paring down their rosters.

The cap numbers aren't big enough to factor into the equation. It's loose change in the couch.

What depth? He's looked completely terrible. If he's terrible and unmotivated there's no advantage to keeping him around. He's on the outside looking in on a roster spot right now IMO. If he's on the roster, it's because he got his act together and earned it.

Hurney magic.

Fug this. Y'all can have this bullshit out in the TB. I'm sick of it in the main football forum.