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Everything posted by LinvilleGorge
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The NFL keeps tweaking the game to get high flying, high scoring offenses. If you don't have an elite QB, you gotta keep swinging until you land one. Any other approach is basically foregoing the opportunity for competing for titles. It's getting crazy with QBs, but the position is just THAT absurdly valuable in today's NFL.
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think if he gets duped into that then the Rhule era will be a bust. The QB position is the one position you can't play the "coach 'em up" game. You need elite talent at that position. I really hope the failed Teddy experiment showed them that. -
I'd honestly rather accumulate future draft capital and go after Howell or Rattler next year. Jones just ain't it. He's likely a Goff or Cousins at best.
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Keep monitoring the Watson situation, but probably the draft. Outside chance we show some interest in Trubisky, but I really think and hope we're done trying to go the mid-level vet FA route. QB is the one position where you pretty much have to have a stud. I think we go into the draft planning on being aggressive if we feel the need. -
We could get them a 3rd or something along those lines and they'd basically be getting a pick for free with us taking a QB and then them taking whoever they would've taken at #7 at #8. #7 plus next year's 3rd is what the value chart says. #7 plus this year's 3rd would give them considerably over chart value.
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The Rams haven't had a 1st round pick since 2016 yet they've had four consecutive winning seasons. That's the type of consistent success a Panthers fan could only dream about.
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
He's better than Teddy. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not a starter in three years but he'll be in the league. Hell, look how long Bradford kept getting paid big bucks. -
Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
If we were in that discussion, I gotta think we thought they were trying to fleece us when they told us what we had to beat from the Rams. Oh wait, y'all serious? That's what they're offering for real? -
That probably got them an additional 1st and maybe the 3rd. But Goff and a 1st for Stafford was probably legit, regardless of the contract
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The Texans sure are smiling wide right now. If they have to move Watson, they're gonna get the biggest trade haul in NFL history.
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A lot of y'all are overlooking that a good chunk of those draft picks were literally just to get the Lions to absorb Goff's contract. That's why a lot of us have been saying Teddy has negative trade value. We'd literally have to give up draft assets to get another team to take him off our hands.
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I hope this takes the Lions out of the running for a QB but I'm not at all sure that it does.
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This. Stafford is a significant upgrade over Goff and they needed out from under that contract THAT bad. With Stafford, the Rams are probably a SB contender next year And he probably has enough left in the tank to carry them through their SB window with this current core. Yeah, it's a steep price, but it makes sense for them.
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
That would certainly be possible. -
Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, I'll take that bet. There have only been 12 5000 yard seasons in NFL history. Stafford has one of them, but that was a decade ago and he had arguably the greatest WR ever. That was also the only time he's thrown for 40+ TDs, only breaking 30 one other season. I seriously doubt he'd rewind the clock a decade. -
Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
He's 33 with two years remaining on his deal, so he's either a bridge or we'll be looking at giving big money to a 35 year old QB. I don't like it. Not if it involves #8. -
Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, if we give up #8 and they package #7 and #8 to go get Zach Wilson that's really gonna sting. -
We're gonna sign Teddy Bridgewater and cut Cam Newton... spin it!
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
If we do get him we probably no longer have that spot. We're probably not drafting in the 1st this year. Then Detroit takes their #7 and our #8 and sends them to Miami for #2 and takes Zach Wilson. -
You might be right. The Browns never even achieved mediocrity with Joe Thomas. If you don't have a QB nothing else really matters.
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Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bridgewater and a 2nd would be awesome. I'd do that all day long. Unloading Bridgewater is like getting a mid-round pick back in return. -
Panthers confirmed to be in Stafford discussion
LinvilleGorge replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Two 2nds. That's my ceiling as a rebuilding team for a 33 year old QB. That won't be enough. Which is why I hope we're not in the mix. -
Would you be happy with Leonard Williams in Carolina?
LinvilleGorge replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, those types have a phenomenal track record of paying off when they cash in on big money long-term deals... -
In a vacuum, sure. But without a QB they won't matter. We'll just be pushing off the hope of legitimately competing for another year.
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Sounds like a plan for mediocrity to me.