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I think there's gonna have to be some serious wrist slapping for that message to resonate. My wife's office is literally going back to business as usual on Monday. Her boss was sending out texts of jubilation during the presser while my wife and all of her coworkers were texting each other "WTF?! Is she actually listening to the words coming out of this man's mouth???"

Yeah, we're making our call based on some really good data and modeling, but the governor is up there pleading with people to let employees work from home whenever possible and to still try to stay at home as much as possible. The presser is still going on and my wife just got a text for a celebratory conference call starting in two minutes since "we'll be back to business as usual on Monday!" Sigh... Even though this decision is based on good data and modeling, it still relies on people not being idiots and in my experience that's always setting yourself up for disappointment.

Colorado is in the south now? We're about as blue as it gets.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-colorado-latest-covid-19-updates-from-april-20-2020 Latest updates: Monday, April 20 4:15 p.m. | Stay-at-home will end Sunday, as scheduled

Don't kid yourself. They'll peacock around claiming their protest was the reason this happened.

Shall we try this again? I promise you that the third time will not be the charm. If it gets locked again it'll be for good and all this conversation will transfer to the TB. In other news, I just found out from someone very much in the know that Colorado's stay at home mandate will be lifted on April 27th and Governor Polis is set to announce that today at 3:30.

Well, that small case study failed miserably. Hopefully it goes better when the stay at home mandates get lifted and people are asked to maintain social distancing guidelines, but honestly I doubt it.

Yeah, there should've been some type of annual revenue piece built into that program. Under 500 employees does not necessarily automatically equate to "small business". Appaloosa Management, Tepper's hedge fund, has about 15 employees. They manage $13B in assets. I don't think anyone in their right mind would consider that a "small business" despite having a small number of employees.

I really want to get one of the antibody tests. I've submitted to be part of a clinical trial for it. I posted awhile back that I think there's a really good chance we've already had this thing and that was before we had preliminary data suggesting that the actual rate of infection very well may be 50x higher than the number of confirmed cases. I traveled a TON in early Q1 and shortly after coming back from a trip to the greater Seattle area in mid-January, I developed a helluva chest cold. Zero head/sinus symptoms. Basically just a drag ass feeling with a low grade fever and a hellish dry cough that lasted forever, like 10 or so weeks forever. The weird thing about it was that it would come in waves. Just as soon as you thought you were getting over it, another wave would hit and you'd be right back to where you started. My wife had the same thing. Our four year old daughter wasn't impacted in the least.

Alright, gates are opened. Please maintain political social distancing guidelines.

This should provide an interesting case study as it's likely what will happen across the U.S. in coming weeks. Stay at home mandates will get lifted and social distancing protocols put into place. Let's see how likely that is to work...

Gonna lock this thread for a bit. When it reopens, can y'all please knock off the political sniping? Consider this the Huddle equivalent of a stay at home mandate with mandatory political social distancing to follow or we'll be forced to go back to the stay at home mandate again.

We've tried to stay pretty hands off in this one, but yeah it's starting to get a little ridiculous. Let's try to redirect the conversation back toward the pandemic and away from purely political issues. I realize they're heavily entwined, but the thread is getting pretty derailed at this point and we'd like to keep it here in the main forum.

That's the biggest thing we have to move past as Americans in politics IMO. Stop the doubling down because you supported someone or voted for someone. Once they're in office, it's time to hold them accountable, period. Whether you voted for them or not. I see way too many people who would rather play the "whataboutism" game than hold their chosen politicians responsible for anything.

Yep, I could buy my house in my hometown of NC all day long for $200k at most and that's with my NC town having boomed in recent years. A few years ago, $150k would've bought it.

Median household income in $78.5k. My wife and I make (well, made) well over that and paid well under the current median value years ago. I have no idea how a lot of people are making this work. If I had to guess, a lot of my neighbors are absolutely awash in debt. Lots of single income households up here with three quarter million dollar homes, two $60K+ vehicles in the driveway, and two kids in private school.

American politics in a nutshell

Median home value in my CO town is $612k.

This isn't a black and white either/or issue. There's plenty of blame to go around and Trump and China both certainly deserve a lot.

If it wasn't for Utah's fuged up politics, I'd probably live there instead of CO. With that said, without the fuged up politics, Utah's cost of living would be just as high as CO's.

A leak is definitely possible. A leak does not preclude natural origins. That's what the experts are pretty damn certain about - the virus isn't bioengineered.

It has been independently sequenced numerous times by numerous countries. How do you think we know that the NY outbreak primarily sources to European origin?

No, it's not. The entire genome has been sequenced. They're very confident that it's of natural origin.