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Seriously. They take the same approach to their OL that we did with Cam.

And your young QB has a laundry list of major injuries during college football. Oh wee mayne...

You don't have to be a screamer or a cheerleader to be a leader. You just have to be respected by your peers. If you're screaming and rah rah'ing around while playing like ass you're just gonna be seen as a joke. Like why don't you just STFU and get yourself straight and stop worrying about anybody else.

It's pretty much impossible for me to imagine Bryce as a big getting in your face guy or being a rah rah cheerleader type. That's just not who he is and I don't really care. Just play well. Everything else will take care of itself if he just plays well.

See what you did @Panthro! I told you to just be happy!

LOLOLOLOL For the record, Arch has since come out and said that he hasn't at all decided on what he'll do in regards to the 2026 draft and that his grandfather Arch has called to apologize for miscommunication to the press regarding the matter.

Calm down now, gramps. Johnny U is still great. LOL

I don't think anyone puts anyone else in the league on Mahomes' level. I think he's clearly in that second tier though along with Lamar and Burrow. Then I think it's another step down to tier three after those guys.

Igo stops by once in a blue moon and no one else has the admin keys. Just be happy it's not still the 2023 draft forum. LOL

wut? I'm not sure he should've won the MVP last year but I don't think you'll find anyone that tries to argue that he's not currently a top 5 NFL QB. Seems to me that Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, and Allen are clearly the top 5 guys with Mahomes clearly being #1 and then the arguing can start from there. LOL

Agreed. Minnesota was a very good situation for him. Going into a significantly lesser offensive situation won't be a surprise to see the same old Darnold return.

The whole "draft a QB savant with no NFL measurables" argument is also on the rocks at the moment. You need a little bit of this, little bit of that to make it work. Meanwhile, last year's MVP was a "draft an athlete and teach him how to be a QB" guy.

God, he looked completely useless early on as a rookie. I mean, complete and utter bust status but really did improve quickly before that hellacious hit derailed his season. Hopefully he can bounce back and keep developing.

We knew his size when we drafted him.

I think he was drafted primarily as a return man and then we were going to look to develop him as a WR but he didn't impress as a returner and probably just isn't far enough along as a WR to make it. We'll hope to stash him on the PS and if someone picks him up, oh well. That's just the way it goes with 6th rounders sometimes.

Jones isn't close to the naturally talented passer that Darnold is. Darnold throws as good of a ball as anybody. He just has that panic gene in him.

Yep, pretty much.

Exactly. This preseason gives me concerns simply because we've been so trash for so long and year after year we try to convince ourselves that preseason doesn't matter and we're going to magically look better as soon as the regular season gets here. It hasn't worked out for us like that. I sure hope it does this year but I'm done having any positive expectations out of this organization. I'm going into the season hoping for the best but fully expecting trash. That way there's no disappointment. If we're trash it's like "yep, business as usual again". If we actually do magically flip the switch this year it's like "fuging SWEET, this is awesome!"

Everything about AR's demeanor in the NFL screams that they should've identified serious mental make up red flags during the pre-draft process. I mean, if you're going to roll the dice on a project type player you have to at least be convinced that the guy is coachable and he's going to commit himself to improving his craft. There just haven't been any signs of that from AR.

That's why I said stats aside. I lived in CO during Allen's college career and didn't have kids at the time so I watched most of his games. Bruh, I'm telling you. Balls just spraying all over the place. The type of throws where you're honestly trying to figure out who he was even trying to throw that one too. It was crazy. Richardson was inaccurate in college but at least you could tell who he was trying to throw it too. He threw a lot of early in the game Cam Newton type balls where it seemed like he was just a little too amped up and everything was a few feet high. Richardson's misses looked like they were maybe fixable with working on his footwork, release, etc. Josh Allen's misses looked like "ain't no way you're fixin' that poo, dude has a cannon equipped with no sights". LOL Huge props to the Bills for evaluating him as fixable and indeed fixing him.

Stats aside, I know it's hard to believe, but just pure eye ball test Anthony Richardson at Florida looked like Drew Brees compared to Josh Allen at Wyoming. Like I said, it's honestly impossible to talk about Allen's inaccuracy at Wyoming without sounding like you're talking in massive hyperbole. Bruh couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. LOL

If we're still flailing and need a QB when Arch Manning comes out in the draft, well... Because Tepper is all about hype trains and to get a hype train with the last name "Manning"? Bruh is gonna be like, "I want that guy and I'm willing to trade... The absolute cherry on top of that dog poo sundae would us be swinging the trade and then the Mannings to be like "Yeah, remember Eli to the Chargers? Same thing." LOL

You said you were talking about how fans and media perceive the preseason so that's what I was talking about but now you're saying that you're talking about how it's viewed from within the organization? I mean, okay. But you could've just started there and then there would've been no misinterpretation.

Yep. Honestly, Josh Allen is the most obvious bust I've ever seen in college. The strides he made as a passer I would've previously said was impossible. It's difficult to describe how wildly inaccurate Allen was in college without coming across as hyperbole. He had never completed 60% of his passes before the NFL. Not at Wyoming, not in junior college at Reedley, not even in HS. This was Josh Allen in college against decent competition Just listen to that exasperated "wow..." from the announcer. Bruh is a professional college football commentator and can barely comprehend the level of trash he's watching. LOL For that guy to turn into a legit MVP NFL QB absolutely boggles the mind.