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Those top 5--all QBs who are either past their primes or underperforming--makes me so Happy that we did not land Watson.

He ran a 4.59. 40 at the combine, which is probably why he dropped in the draft.

Right. When Chark did not step up and Marshall continued to discover his purpose, we only had a rookie (Mingo) and Thielen. At 32, he should not have come in to be the #1 WR, but he was needed and he stepped up. I am fairly sure that he'd be totally happy as the third or fourth best WR at this stage of his career.

The biggest reason I would have to shop Thielen is his age (33) and I do not want Bryce going to him as an outlet quickly because they are familiar. Do I think Renfro would be the answer? Maybe, but man, there are some good slot WRs in the draft later too. Washington from UVA and A Smith (I think) from Tex AM. If I knew the offensive philosophy better, how the intend to maximize Bryce's skillset, I would have a stronger opinion. I am not that high on Renfro. I just texted my friend's son who plays T for the Raiders (Parker). He said that he and Renfro were religious and were close friends for that reason. FWIW.

I see your point--he was the safe check down a lot. I did hear he did not want to be part of a rebuild, so maybe we could trade him for a late round pick, but I do not know if we get much, a trade at all, and I am not sure Renfro is an upgrade. I do, however, see your points--made the same comments myself. He is an outlet and was not a threat. Who did we have that might require a S over the top?

The Chargers are over the cap, fwiw.

If I am not mistaken, today teams have to get their caps below the cap figure--so there should be some trades, waivers by 4:00

I think AT said he did not want to be a part of a rebuild.

AT is 33 He had 1000 yards and 100 catches here last year. His 10-year average is 770 yards and 91 catches per season

In the last two years he has a total of 585 yards. Before that, he had a 1000 yard, 100 catch season. He is 28.

amen

Newsflash. Details at 11. I think Canales is going to really work on developing Mingo, maybe Marshall too. Maybe they will be better fits now. People get on Mingo like he was a bust, but in this offense, he had over 400 yards as a rookie--now, those are TE numbers, but he had a catch in every game, I believe.

That is pretty much what we saw. It was ugly

People used to say that about Peppers too. There is a bit of a cat and mouse game going on during a game. If the T sees your moves every play, you are easier to block later. You hear this a lot about DEs/OLBs/Edge players.

I think we are going to address edge within the next day or two, but that is with a questionable player at best---we still could use a veteran. Gonna read this more carefully and maybe respond later--some very thoughtful and valid points in here.

Yeah, I did not break down the WRs into their roles and that makes WR seem like less of a need. I did color the need square with the "starter" color. I think we go Edge and WR in round 2 with a possibility to add a CB--but I think we add a few free agents that make this easier. CB has to be one--We are probably about to see some 1-year contracts soon.

Here is what concerns me about C--they have already announced moving Corbett there and I think they have made Mays the backup C. They have other open starting positions and they have not announced it. I think they will draft a C if the BPA is there, but I worry that they see it at least covered, on paper, for now. I feel confident that there are 4 positions that have nobody in the starting position (SS, CB, Edge, and possibly TE.) I am very worried about depth at WR, CB, DL, LB, OL etc etc. A swiss army RB, reserve Mike LB, etc. Someone said that Shaq is gone (cap) and they need to find his replacement. Fitterer really, really sucked. Bad.

This scared me. I realize we have more free agency, the draft, and then even undrafted free agents---I still do not see how they are going to field a decent team===and then there is the QB question mark at best.

I know--this bothers me--why spend $$$$ on 2 guards and have a C by default? Listening to everyone, man this roster is bare. Everyone is making good points.

No, but if you had 10 players considering our situation across the board, is C a top 10? While C is an uncertainty, we have indisputable needs for starters in the following areas: Starter Needs Edge CB SS WR TE I am not disagreeing with you, but we also need depth a ILB, CB, CB, RB, FS. so is a position with an established OL and even a backup in year 3 still that big of a need? Every team has its weak spots--I see the point being made

And that might make him our best WR--I can't imagine how easy it was to game plan against us. I would flood A gaps. cover the TE with a LB if necessary, and let Adam Thielen get his 75 yards.

I thought long and hard about that, but we do have an established lineman there--Lemme see what everyone else says, but I see your point--is it a top 10 need? I figure we have the picks and room to address about 10 needs. But they did not just pay tons for 2 guards to have a weak link at C.

I may have missed someone, but I do this to help me see it, so I thought I would share. Let me know if you see a mistake or want to make a suggestion.

Left Tackle Left Guard Center Right Guard Right Tackle Ickey Ekwonu Damien Lewis Austin Corbett Robert Hunt Taylor Moton Brady Christesen Chandler Zavala Cade Mays (B. Christensen) Wide Receiver Running Back Quarterback Tight End Diontae Johnson Chuba Hubbard Bryce Young Adam Thielen Miles Sanders Andy Dalton Tommy Tremble Ian Thomas Jonathan Mingo I Smith-Marsette T Marshall Jr Stephen Sullivan Jack Linebacker Defensive End Defensive Tackle Defensive End Sam Linebacker Derrick Brown Shy Tuttle A’Shwn Robinson Amare Barno DJ Johnson Raeq Williams Nick Thurmond LaBryan Ray Eku Leota Cornerback Will LB Mike LB Nickel Cornerback JC Horn Shaq Thompson Josey Jewell Troy Hill Chandlr Wooten Strong Safety Free Safety Xavier Woods Jammi Robinson Prioritized Needs: YELLOW- 1. Edge, 2. Corner, 3. Wide Receiver, 4.Strong Safety 5.Tight End Secondary Needs: GREEN- 1. Cornerback (2), 3. Running Back, 4. Mike Linebacker, 5. F. Safety

You certainly wouldn't be wrong. i see that.