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Ryan Kalil was not that good at G--too small, but he was a nice center. I like what I am hearing and want to believe it all...

I thought he was as good as cut this year--he did step up a bit, probably getting strength back after the injury, but he is no star.

I know-but it is not going to be as simple as we are making it--if there is a QB there, and there might be--or if not, a damn good WR/CB/T will be there--do we move back? I think we have to. My favorite OT in this draft--Sewell is awesome--is Teven Jenkins--but he played RT.

There will probably be a QB at #8 and a team that wants to deal. We could get a 2021 second and a 2022 second to move back to 15 (NE) or 19 (Washington) and still get a CB / T in round 1.

I do not think we go OT in round 1--there are about 8-10 good Tackles. We can have BOTH a CB and a T, but the CB market gets thin at the back end of the first round--there should be tackles through the second--at least in the mocks I mess with. I just do not get the Erving and Elfein signings.

Yes, but Jackson is probably gone in 2022 (if we do not re-sign him) and we have Pride. The CBs in round 1 are good--and the OL is deep in this draft. We can have both. Nobody is talking about a 3tech DT, but we are going to get one. MARK MY WORDS!!

I hear you, brother, but a #1 CB on Jones and Thomas makes us better at 2 positions. #1 CBs are rather hard to get, and the draft is deep at OL---just a hunch, but we could trade back a bit, grab a CB and a T, and then we frolic.

Erving at G--how did he do in KC? I have not given it thought, but we restructured Paradis and paid Elf a 3-year deal, so I did not see Erving at G. What do you know?

I think a #1 CB is our biggest need at this time, depending on how one feels about Darnold. I hate the idea of Erving at LT, and I think a decent LT prospect is there in round 2. There are some tackles in the second round, but no #1 CBs. If we get a #1 CB, it immediately makes Jackson better, because he can now cover the less established WR. In the NFC South, that means we have a better player on Jones, Thomas, and Evans, for example--that makes a huge difference, moving Action Jackson to the #2.

He had a better OL

Tannehill was on a terrible, dysfunctional, poorly coached team in Miami. I am struggling to see the compari--oh, there it is.

Sam Darnold is younger tha Joe Burrow. This is like an experienced rookie who will appreciate the opportunity more than we all know.

Funny when they talk trash. I like seeing the pictures of the Jets' fans on draft day--same look they had on the "bubble in your name" portion of the SAT.

FWIW, how would feel about spending a first rounder on Mac Jones? That is probably where we were headed. Or 2 first rounders on a QB from NDSU? or one of Ohio State's many QBs?

I had the same thought. This is a much better deal for a QB with more upside. People, you can look at stats all day--they don't measure coaching, culture, or the future. They are snapshots of what happened. So what? If they want to give this a shot, what is it really costing us? Not $40m for sure.

Another factor---we are going to kick the tires for 2 years before we fish or cut bait with him.

I am pushing Mills, fwiw--trade back up into the late second Chinn style.

Agreed. And one thing we all could probably agree on: He will be better here. How much? Remains to be seen, but if we sent NYJ 3 firsts and Wilson busted, I would then be pissed.

What if we trade back (now that we can) and add a second rounder in the draft? It would seem that we not only are locked into a first round QB (it was going to be Mac Jones, prolly) and we can get a decent CB or OL, add a second rounder and draft a T/CB, and add---wait for it---Mond or Mills. By developing a young QB while giving Darnold a chance AND building around him, you are not strapped into taking the #5 QB in the draft in the top 10, or you do not have to roll three first rounders out there to move up. I like the move--lets see how this plays out.

A second THIS year would not be that alarming. Consider the second NEXT year as interest so that we can have 3 picks on days 1 and 2-,maybe more. Next year? In today's value: A third and a fifth. Folks, we are talking about a former top 3 pick who was sent to QB HELL. He is 23.8 years old. Damn nice gamble, if you ask me. Worst case scenario? We have a decent backup QB for 2 years. Best case scenario? We realize just how toxic NYJ culture was---have you heard Robbie talk about it?

Of course they are, if you call them atrocious before anyone plays a down. Look, this aint fantasy football--this about team concept and fit. Maybe he busts here--but you know, maybe Wilson would have too. Maybe Fields will be terrible. Maybe Lance is really Mark Sanchez in disguise.

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