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Idk, it wasn't what he said for me, it was how he said it. Really just reminded me of Rhule tapping he podium "ya know it took 7 years for Jay-Z..."

I said this in the other thread but it fits more appropriately here. He can't see over his line (FYI one of his guards is 6'6"). So waits until he can see and gets sacked.. OR runs out of the pocket When he runs out of the pocket, he gets sacked because he only has half the field available Or he throws a duck because he's running and can't set his feet properly.

Yeah and he did that in Reich's boring, stale, oatmeal-like offense.

He did well. He was giving me Dwayne Jarrett vibes, but perhaps that's Mingo.

Had 7 years/Jay Z vibes the way he said it though.

I think Tepper has, it's just going to take time to see it. Bryce and a lot of these other guys were already on the team before he rumored to "step back" this spring. My fear is that he has stepped back and poo like today keeps happening and he thinks it worked better with him in the mix everyday.

If he keeps putting this on the field he's done. If he can show some level of improvement from last year, he is safe. The bar is 2 fuging games, it's not high. He can get that with Dalton and a few changes through the season. He has to prove his system works. That's the biggest thing. Bryce made his system look hammered poo.

Right He can't get the ball out quick because he can't see. He runs out of the pocket to see, and gets sacked and everyone screams "protection sucks." His accuracy sucks because he's running out of the pocket to see and can't set his feet.

Yeah, you're right. I was just referring to the pro's of letting Dalton play vs Bryce. We could have players like that on this roster in some of our younger players but we'll never know it this year because we can get the ball to them.

The defense was overrated last year. I don't think they will be in the bottom, but I think they will be in the 20s somewhere. I think they just really got caught off guard and then were gassed because the offense kept giving them good field position and they couldn't catch their breath. Maybe Wonnum and Dane Jackson can help in the rotation too. I have more confidence in them turning it around than the offense.

Unfortunately, I don't think he gets benched for a couple more weeks. I think he starts next week and in Vegas and may or may not get benched during that game. Dalton's first game probably comes week 4 at home against the Bengals, just because I can see that being the storyline all week, him and his former team.

What about being competitive in games, and being capable of winning them?

Then we need to at least see that. Because if Dalton comes in and the same crap happens then fine. But the overwhelming perception is Bryce makes an already struggling team worse and the team is too stubborn to admit it because they mortgaged the farm to get him. And to note, the most productive day we had on offense all season last year was when Andy started in Seattle.

Start Bryce: Pros-Top 3 pick Cons-No guarantee next QB will work out; No confidence front office gets pick right; destroy morale of current players; discourage players from wanting to resign; FA will not want to come to a team with another 2 win season unless you use a ton of cap room; don’t get to see what other guys can do/develop to with horrible QB play. Start Dalton Pros- Increase morale, see what young guys can do with average-ish QB play. Canales can demonstrate his system works to prevent another coaching/GM turnover; more FA likely to be open to signing; more likely to resign guys we want to come back. Cons- Likely 10-15 pick; Dalton probably only has another 1-3 seasons in the tank.

The FO has to admit he's not the guy.

You can do the same thing with Dalton that we did with Darnold when Wilks was here. Use this "supposedly" improved OL and one of our 15 running backs and run the damn ball 25-30 times a game. Dalton can make the throws he needs to like Sam did (and probably better than Sam did). Besides, Canales is supposed to be a Play Action guru.

I usually agree with you, but the doubt packed it poo and left town in December last year. This isn't your typical rookie development project, this is horrible.

1. You have to start Dalton at some point, hopefully soon. You run the risk of destroying the morale in the locker room. 2. Benching Bryce and at least trying to put something together with Dalton this season will probably save Canales and Morgan's job and prevent yet another FO turnover. 3. You will get to see what you have in your other players by giving them a functional QB and allow them to develop. 4. No Free Agent is going to come anywhere near here after another 2-15 season, and good luck resigning anybody. 5. You're going to lose what little is left of the fan base if you don't put somebody in who can at least make basic throws. Dalton would have at least sustained some drives to give the defense a break. Hell, I think Plummer would have looked better than Bryce since he doesn't have to crow hop to make the ball go 15 yards.

Yeah but I wonder how much of it is being exhausted because the offense can’t sustain drives. Definitely looks worse than last year though

Nah bro he sucks. He ain’t gonna have a run game or o-line here either.

Yeah and nobody else that wants to be here. And have no idea what your young guys can do because Bryce is 3 and out each drive.

Hell no. Matt Rhule just slapped him around last night.

Yeah but another 2-15 season and good luck getting any FA to sign here. You’ll have nothing but rookies that are disappointed they were drafted by us. Besides, leaving Bryce in limits the offense and the development of people like Legette, Sanders, Mingo because the offense is limited. Change the QB and give the guys something to play for.

Yeah exactly. Dalton and run the ball heavy