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To be fair, perhaps he was trying to not be totally negative lol

One has to ask what are the Panthers going to do now that Plan A is finished how many games are left, 8 lol i want the qb whisperer and guru to show something new and inventive in play selection and scheme and personnel somehow, I don’t think he or idzik can

Canales is not helping the situation I have absolutely had it 1. Injured guards and a rotating line, ok, go max protect vs empty backfield help them …including a TE in the backfield if needed you are where you are. 2. There is zero imagination in any of this offense..,zero. There is no rule that says you can’t have both Rico, Chuba or start a TE in the backfield at the same time with only 2 wide receivers 3. The WR line up is not working. Change it. he keeps trotting the same lineup out there that has not worked I don’t give a poo what they do in practice. Game day results is what matters Dropped passes…bad routes..sit them down put in Moore if you need to Don’t care Find a possession receiver not named McMillan 4 TE Lineup is non existent in pass offense. Change it. Sanders ain’t it period, end of story… drops no,YAC He would be 3rd string on any other team Put the older veteran out there with Tommy or Mitch 5. For the love of god, this is pro football, find 2 pass plays over 10 yards your QB can throw consistently and do it and do it from a running set If he can’t do the minimum, find someone else or maybe, just maybe, the minimum, with less to think about gets his head straight Ps when you need 7 yards, don’t ask him to throw it 30 to the end zone, you know he can’t You’ve admitted it 6 your qb is not a pocket passer Accept it, just like you did with Baker Move him 7. Personnel. If you execute, you play. If you don’t, you sit Too many dropped passes by all of them. Pro football requires execution The full team will quit on Canales if he, who is the OC and HC, can’t fix the area he is supposed to be a ‘guru’ and ‘whisperer’ for and I don’t blame them /end rant

I Will never live down ‘turn over Fred ‘ vs ‘turn over free’ in the title I couldn’t edit ironically, the ‘Fred’ was more appropriate lol lol

I meant to say too that corbett needs to sit and so does moton both are shadows of what they were 2 years ago. Age and injuries why canales finds it impossible to have rico and chuba in backfield together or tremble with a back is beyond me they beed to find one route past 10 yards for young to throw consistently Just one and if they need to go max protect for that, then for the love of god, do it The same line used at GB, in the same formation, should have stayed

Hard to fault the defense when they were on the field all day. the offense, i believe i heard, had 1 first down the entire second half and only a couple in the first you are correct that there were numerous whiffs by tacklers in any case

Perhaps given tepper allowed the panthers to move on from darnold and baker and Cam Too quickly without a plan other than ‘swing for the fences until we find our guy’ Fetterer

Quite honestly the decisions by dave and dan on the qb room makeup in 2025 indicates either 1. A prove it that young is not the guy by giving him no pressure of competition and every opportunity to fail to show the owner that the franchise needs to move on or 2. God forbid, they really believe he is a nfl capable qb fans are screwed in either case

No way do they give him a contract Keep him through year 4 but on the bench and get brisset for next year find that qb in 2027 draft seen enough nothing short of a prolific offensive showing over the remaining games against decent opponents justifies keeping him in a starting role next year ..or Canales as offensive coordinator

Next Gen Stats Insight for Saints-Panthers (via NFL Pro): Much of Tyler Shough’s production was directed outside the numbers, as he finished 11 of 16 for 202 yards and both of his touchdowns on such attempts. His yardage total outside the numbers was the second-most by a Saints quarterback in the last eight seasons and most by any rookie in 2025. NFL Research: The Panthers had their sixth game of the season with seven or fewer points in the first half. Carolina is 2-15 when Bryce Young starts at QB and has less than 70 yards in the first half in his career.

Take Brissett

Tepper needs and wants a face of the franchise for his renovation and building and new endeavors it isnt young he best get a 2 year replacement plan in place for young

Friend. Totally understand had psls for 23 years moved in 2023 and had one year left on my contract and through some miracle, unloaded it now, i watch them on Sunday ticket Turn the channel when they suck. No lines for better booze and cleaner bathrooms and no 85 to 40 traffic nightmares back to Raleigh

We have been here before haven’t we. Even jimmy clausen could do a qb sneak I remember driving to Charlotte from Raleigh when clausen was playing and leaving to drive back to Raleigh at halftime as they couldn’t get a first down. A wasted season From a qb perspective, panthers are here again it is time to cut bait. Wait until the rams, Bucs, Seahawks, and 49ers get ahold of them …each of those teams, better coaches, and infinitely better QBs

Yes and I’m certain they start with half the playbook to accommodate Young …then as they know more of what he can and can’t do based on the speed the pro game requires in processing and arm velocity, they cut more this is not sustainable

I think i am getting to a place of apathy with this pro franchise They need to move on from Young quickly and perhaps Canales and morgan anyone who thinks they shouldn’t need only to watch the top 15 teams in league the Panthers are light years away …not being able to sustain a vertical offense, run a qb sneak for a yard. Give me a break after investing millions in the oline, drafting WRs, giving up multiple assets for multiple years for the worst qb ive ever seen at the NFl level, warrants it it is sadly what it is

I was struck at the Saints DLmen not even engaging the panthers oline several times as they knew 1. it was a pass play 2. Where the play was going 3 which pass lane Young preferred to get hands up to block Young’s pass unbelievably smart

Was that the worst loss of season for Carolina Panthers? You better believe it Scott Fowler [email protected] 29 mins ago If the Carolina Panthers wanted to stick a pin into Charlotte and deflate the whole city, they certainly did so on Sunday. The Panthers had suffered some poor losses already this season. Buffalo beat them by 31; New England by 29. But Sunday’s 17-7 loss to the New Orleans Saints before a dispirited crowd in Bank of America Stadium looked and felt worse than any other loss this season for Carolina. This was a helmet-slamming, boo-raining, turnover-making testament to badly coached and played football by the home team. I’d label this one as the biggest letdown of the season, mainly because of the quality of the opponent. New Orleans came into the game 1-8 and was starting a rookie quarterback who had zero NFL wins. But the Saints outplayed the Panthers so thoroughly — outgaining the Panthers 388-175 — that Carolina was booed off the field at halftime and again in the fourth quarter. Carolina dropped to 5-5, looking again like the sadly familiar team that has posted losing records every year since 2017. Where were the feel-good Panthers that had upset Green Bay at Lambeau Field a week before? They apparently never got on the plane. Carolina Panthers made New Orleans rookie quarterback Tyler Shough look like Drew Brees, as he threw for two touchdowns and 282 yards, including monstrous plays of 52 and 62 yards. The Saints decided to stop Rico Dowdle by crowding the box with eight defenders and daring quarterback Bryce Young to beat them. Young and the Panthers receivers never came close to doing it. Instead, it was Young who looked like the rookie quarterback Sunday — jittery and overwhelmed — and Shough who resembled a veteran. And it was Panthers coach Dave Canales who seemed unprepared as to how to adjust to a Saints team that challenged the Panthers receivers with one-on-one coverage and completely blanketed them. I forgot starting receiver Xavier Legette (zero receptions, zero yards, zero impact) was even in the game until he was called for a penalty. Carolina only had a single play of 15 yards or longer all day. The 2-15 Panthers of 2023 would have had a decent shot at beating these 2025 Panthers on Sunday. “Not our brand of football,” Dowdle said. “It sucks,” Young said. “I’ve got to do a better job,” Canales said. All true. A week after a win and Dowdle’s 130 rushing yards disguised Carolina’s serious passing game deficiencies against Green Bay, there was nowhere to hide Sunday. Other than rookie Tetairoa McMillan, Young (17-for-25 for 124 yards, no TDs, one interception) seemed disconnected from the entire offense. Young also got fooled by a fake blitz and threw a horrible fourth-quarter interception directly to the Saints’ Alontae Taylor. “Bad read, bad ball, 100% my fault,” said Young, who came to the sideline and slammed his helmet down after that one. Young also threw another interception on Carolina’s first and only touchdown drive in the first quarter, but was fortunate to have that one negated by penalty. His botched handoff on a jet sweep to Jimmy Horn Jr. resulted in a turnover inside the New Orleans 20. Although Young took responsibility for that fumble, Horn said it was actually his fault. “I’ve got to grab the ball,” he said. “I take full accountability for all that.” Both Panthers players with the surname “Horn” were on the wrong side of big plays Sunday. Cornerback Jaycee Horn, in one-on-one coverage with Chris Olave, lost a hand-fighting battle, fell down and allowed Olave to score on a 62-yard catch-and-run. Olave then added insult to injury by jumping into the premium end zone seating alongside Panther fans to celebrate. Said Ekwonu: “We just weren’t locked into the small details. A couple guys spoke about it. Coach (Canales) spoke about it throughout the week. And you can’t get days back. If you have a tough day on Thursday, tough day on Friday, or whatever, you can always look forward. But you can’t get that day back. So that preparation, or lack thereof, is going to add up. And unfortunately, that just cultivated to what we saw today.” Dowdle, who ran for a modest 53 yards on 18 carries, was swarmed on nearly every play and said he was facing a “heavy box” from the first snap of the game. “They were basically trying to overmatch our personnel,” Dowdle said, noting that the Saints simply brought in one defensive lineman after another as Carolina failed to punish New Orleans with the passing game. Dowdle was asked if he thought the Saints were “hungrier” Sunday. He responded that he didn’t think so, but admitted: “You watch the film, maybe that’s what it might look like.” In any case, Carolina blew a huge opportunity, losing at home to a 1-8 team in what theoretically should have been the most winnable game the team has left. Of course, these Panthers have defied expectations before, both for better and for worse. But on abysmal days like this one, Canales’ relentless postgame optimism does seem misplaced. The coach seemed determined to take all the blame himself for not putting the Panthers into better offensive plays. Of Bryce Young, Canales said: “I think he’s throwing the ball great.” Of Legette: “I think X is running fast. He’s doing everything we ask of him.” Really? Then how come the Panthers’ final nine drives of the game went punt-punt-punt-punt-end of half-blocked field goal-lost fumble-interception-lost on downs? There’s nothing great about that. That’s not what anyone was asking for, except the Saints. I won’t pick on Canales too much, as this was very much a team loss and he wasn’t the one out there making the turnovers. But this a Panthers team that needs to stay humble and realize this reality: Even on its best days, it’s barely good enough to win in the NFL. There can be no letups. No letdowns. And nothing like what we saw Sunday, which was an embarrassment.

Tepper might have something to do with that, who knows Dan also likes his receiver room……..I’m not of that belief but whatever

Other teams had those QBs too some times, as you know, they aren’t ready or the system is a fit some times, they can’t play at the nfl level. Unfortunately the Panthers have this case

Finished after year 5 and 32 million bucks not bad we should all have it so bad the nfl is just not for him

Nothing wrong with giving someone the benefit of the doubt it is a team sport but the unfortunate reality is, as I’ve said many times before, if a team ain’t got a qb, they ain’t got nothing, particularly in the modern nfl.

What is up with the arm rubbing he does it all the time is that some new age calm method or some poo to not say what he wants to say he was a bit passive aggressive in his answers I guess he didn’t want to say, ‘ I suck’ what more do you want me to say ‘

Can’t see down the field and a coach who constantly calls plays that makes him do it …and a qb you can’t use on short yardage …and an offense that is lateral because he can’t go vertical it is a poo show. Plan and simple or Cam used to say ‘simple and plain’

He is so slow and lackadaisical on the field zero intensity slow to react to what he sees… I was serious, this is the most intense I’ve heard him