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Yea he wanted to leave, he had to leave mentally for his sake. He publicly announced he wanted to play somewhere else.

I was talking about this last night. Look at the routes combinations from Seattle to the other three games. They are completely different. This offense wasn't designed for Young, it was designed for Stroud or AR. No question about it. Reich didn't get his QB and it's clear as day watching the games.

Cousins is a bad comp, coming out of college he threw 59mph at the combine. That puts kirk in the top percentile of the NFL. He's behind a few others you listed as well. He's on par with Watson, who has one of the weakest combine throws ever at 45mph.

No, let that dude go play cod somewhere else.

Lol. Thank you and Goodnight

Go to bed dude. I'm only up because I'm out of work from illness.

It might actually help. Now they would be forced to find a coach with a system that fits Bryce. Instead of having Reich coach someone that doesn't fit his system so they have to change the route combinations and play calling for said qb.

Like if you told me that Reich was the teams third choice for head coach.... I'd believe you 100%. The moves don't match the coach.

Watson threw 45ish at the combine I think.

What's weird to me is that no one outside of Thielen, Hubbard, and Hurst fit his system. Mingo doesn't. Sanders doesn't The oline doesn't The other wr's don't. It's so confusing to see them try to bang a round peg into a square hole each week. Like did they put this team together for him or for someone else to coach.

I think his arm is similar to what Watson showed at the combine his draft year. 40ish on normal throws and 45ish when he really slings it.

I think the other problem is two fold, maybe three fold but all on the same problem if that makes sense. 1. Reich's system clearly doesn't fit him as a player, but because of Bryce's anticipation that could be ok but 2. Reich is limiting the play calling because of the above or because he doesn't trust him to run his offense. Maybe a combination of the two. 3. The speed of the NFL has so far limited one of Bryces strong points in his game. Off schedule playmaking. So he doesn't look great but it's not his fault for most of the above.

Oh well that's silly, he's got an NFL arm it's just average to maybe slightly above average. I think his anticipation makes his arm look better than it really is. He's got an A+ mind and A+ throw anticipation for sure.

Nah we are saying he has an average NFL qb arm. The others are saying it's above average or better. Well I'm saying it's average. Lol

For added reference Anthony Richardson hit 60 mph at the Combine. CJ Stroud hit 59 mph at the combine.

I don't think some get what's being said here. The average NFL qb can throw a football 50 yards and at speeds of around 40 mph. Which is the arm strength that Bryce has. Top end arm strength in the NFL is 50-60 mph. One qb has thrown faster than 60 mph at the combine, DTR at 62. Just to put that in reference for everyone. Most top out around 57-60 mph. Cousins and Kapernick are at the high end of that mark hitting 59-60 mph. Watson was 45mph, included for reference point as well. it's ok that Bryce has an average arm... nothing wrong with that at all.

There's a baseball scale that some use for arm strength. 80-20 scale. Mahomes and the other elite arm QB's are a 70 or higher on the scale. Bryce Young's is measured between 40-50 on this scale. Just to give some reference on his functional arm strength.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bryce-young-qb-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10067920-nfl-coach-bryce-youngs-arm-unimpressive-compared-to-richardson-stroud-levis https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-combine-2023-analyzing-bryce-youngs-historically-slight-frame-and-whether-teams-should-be-concerned/ https://www.nfl.com/prospects/bryce-young/3200594f-5512-4763-ab24-c1bd051ef0ef "Deep throws come out flat and lose energy late. The deep ball is nothing special and his drive velocity fails to stand out, but he has enough arm strength to make the necessary throws." I can keep going. Nothing revisionist here, just simply pointing out one of his weaknesses were his deep ball and arm velocity. It's literally listed as a weakness on each of these links.

I'm not trying to take a shot at Bryce but I think it's clear that the coaching staff didn't want him. The offense isn't tailored for his skill set at all. It's more tailored for AR or Stroud then it is Young. I've admitted that the play calling when Young is playing has been awful but is that the coaching staff or limitations of Young that the team is covering up. His biggest + minus the field vision was his creativity and so far in the NFL that's actually not worked all that well so far. I know it's 3 games but there's some serious red flags with the team for one reason or another.

It's a known fact that Young doesn't have good arm strength. [It was one of his knocks] just adequate arm strength. While it's also a known fact that Fields has one of the strongest arms in the NFL. Come on now, we can be realistic here.

You might be right, I'm still of the belief that he didn't want Young in the draft. Still trying to figure out if it was Tepper that over ruled him and Fitt or if it was Fitt and tepper that did it.

No the throw itself. Young couldn't make them. Field has a cannon and barely completed the two to Moore. Young throws those passes and they are picked off.

Yea but there's at least 4 throws that fields made tonight with 2 to Moore that Young simply can't make at all. Like no chance in heck he even attempts them.

Dalton got hit 10 times against the Seahawks and threw for 364 yards. The team doesn't trust him to run its real offense, it's why the route combinations are different for Young compared to Dalton.

I think Reich is doing it on purpose. It increases my entertainment value at least. Lol I honestly don't think Young can run the offense the way Reich and Brown want it ran. They told Tepper and they still got the QB they didn't want.