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Except with Bryce. Chris doesn't like him. Even when they do well, he finds faults with him.

lol...haters gonna hate: That sack didn't lose the game but saying that was on BY is ridiculous. Look at the bottom left on the images. The time from the snap to when Bryce is sacked is 2 seconds at the most. And it was on his blind side. Saying that sack was on him and just showing your hate.

I saw enough after last year

Well there you go!

Against the Saints, Mayfield hit Egbuka in the end zone, but Egbuka dropped it—costing the Bucs six points. They ended up losing by four. Against the Falcons, Mooney fumbled with six Bucs around him, yet somehow he still came up with the football. Later, Cousins fumbled and apparently had a hand on the ball along with a Bucs defender. The refs awarded possession back to Atlanta. Pitts caught a TD with part of his body clearly landing out of bounds. Replays looked like his elbow was either down before or at the same his butt hit, but somehow the Falcons still got the touchdown. Either the Football Gods are smiling down on the Panthers, or the Bucs have seriously pissed them off. Either way, I’ll take it.

Couldn't you find a play in every game with every QB were they got credit for a TD or some yardage but it wasn't really because of anything special they did. Tha's just part of the game. And if you are going to say Young doesn't deserve credit for the TD, then couldn't you make the same claim with Chuba. I mean all Chuba did was run in a straight line. He didn't juke anyone or break tackles - just ran straight to the end zone. He was able to because of great execution: the pass was good and his blockers all hit their man allowing him to go in untouched. So does he really deserve credit it for the TD. Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative. It just seems Young is held to a diffrent standard than other young QBs.

Not trying to be argumentative but I'm not sure what else Bryce could have done in the Rams game to have been better. He completed 75% of his passes, threw for 3 TD's, was 46% on 3rd down conversions, averaged a little over 8 yards a pass and had a 147 passer rating. I mean he can only work with what he is given and I thought he did well with those 20 possesions. And I'm not sure those 4th down plays were called because the offense wasn't working. Like I pointed out above, they were converting over 46% on 3rd downs and they only punted 3 times on 8 positions. I would guess those 4th downs were because Canales knew they couldn't beat the Rams without the extra possessions.

I think he's just gun shy. The man has been brutalized over the past couple of years, both locally and nationally. I think he's just very carefull about what he says now.

Your missing the real stat. Shough is 6.5" - Bryce is 5'10". That's all you need to know.

Don't forget about Hunt.

Nah, they don't need to do that. They just pay lobbyist and politicians to write the laws they want and then they use media (Fakebook, X, TikTok, Fox News, NY Times, etc) to keep us unwashed masses fighting between ourselves over matters that really don't matter instead of the things that do.

Says the person who calls those who he disagrees with "stupid"

It's funny. I avoid reddit and X because of how toxic the users are - and yet I keep coming back here.

Maybe. But Tepper donated 67 million to Carnegie Mellon when he was in Pittsburg and has given somewhere around 23 million here I believe. I am sure some of it is PR, but knowing where he came from, I believe part of it is just him wanting to give back.

So you are saying you would have preferred that Charlotte said no thanks and sent him and the Panthers packing? How much better off would the community be without the Panthers being a part of the city. Once they were gone, would you then just abolish the hospitality tax that is being used to pay for the updates even though it is also used for other things like the Charlotte Convention Center, Spectrum Center (Hornets arena), as well as tourism promotions, etc. I also believe it was used to help fund the Nascar Hall Of Fame here as well. I have to admit I do not like seeeing public funds used to fund sports either but if you want a major sports team here, it's going to cost regardless whether its the Panthers or some other team.

I seem to disagree with a lot of people on this board but brother, that is one thing we can both agree on!

10 years ago you didn't have rushing QB's like you have today. Jackson, Allen, Hurts, Nix, Williams, etc. Maybe part of the drop off is from QB's running it more often instead of attempting passes. Running QB's have changed the way the game is played and QB's are measured statistically.

I agree he does look good but I do not think he is good enough...yet.

Horn can't fall again, they need to stop the run and they have to keep Shough contained in the pocket. Simple

You could say that about almost any team owner regardless of the sport. That does not diminish the good they have done.

Again, it's not one stat. The chart is from Pro-Football-Reference as of this morning. The difference between Young and any of the other QBs between the Orange highlights is significantly insignificant. So if you are claiming Young should be replaced based upon those numbers, than so should everyone around him - which is just foolish.

The funny thing is when I brought up Youngs lack of talent and coaching his first year, I was told "your just making excuses". When I brought up that maybe some of Youngs early struggles this year were in part because of lack of experience in receivers, I was told "your just making excuses" again. But when you talk about Mayfields' performance this year, you point put all the injuries contributing to his low numbers. When CRA talks about Lawrences' low numbers this year, in another post, he blames them on his receivers "letting him down". Double standards. Anyway, Mayfield is 14th in QBR at 60 as of this morning. That's 2 spots above average. Hardly "quite a bit above average". Unlike the hard core haters on this board, I will admit that a QB's numbers are dependant on the talent around him and agree Mayfields numbers have been affected by injuries this season. I am not trying to trash Mayfield. I am just claiming CRA's post that Young sucks because his numbers are below average is misguided as they are pretty much in line with Baker Mayfield, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Ward and Caleb Williams numbers.

Look at the chart. if you are claiming his numbers prove he not an NFL caliber QB, than neither is Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, CJ Stroud, Baker Mayfield and Mahommes. They are all below average and within 2 points of Youngs' numbers.

No I am saying your arguement that Young is bad because he's below average in yards, comp % and rating is a weak arguement. Claiming a QB is trash because they are at 63.1% when the average is 64.% is stupid. Yeah, it's true they are below average but so are the other 16 QB's that are below average as well