rayzor

Same feeling I've had all a long.... Forced to choose, Stroud, but totally happy with either one should I hear that name called. No regrets either way

i would take the word 'serious' out of it. he has concerns, but its no more than any other areas to consider. it's not like it carries more weight in the decision than anything else.

oh...i know. you see that's the thing that's so tough about all of this. if you say that one player does one thing better (in your opinion) then people assume that you are saying the other player cant. both are incredible and do so many things...pretty much everything... well. but with Young, IN MY OPINION, because of his stature i think he has to rely on his mobility more to scan the field. he's adapted well, i think, but i think it's largely out of necessity that he has to run around more than others who are taller so he can see the field better. I think Young can play from the pocket, but i think he's limited there and that he does better when he doesn't. Stroud can do it from both and do it from the pocket more consistently. Size is a factor here.

he didn't pull off a win, but it wasn't his fault that they didn't win. guy did an incredible performance without his best receivers.

how long did it take us to figure out that Rhule wasn't going to work out? how many of us thought that Clausen was a bad idea?

elite football IQ will carry a QB further for longer than elite physical traits.

whoever it is, they will be ROTY.

this too

it is rough to watch him. i feel really bad for him but i'm glad he's still pushing and doing his thing.

true to all that. and with that...i'm stoked about either option.

i will say that there shouldn't be any question of whether or not Stroud can perform like he did against GA every week. The only added element to his game was the running/playground style of play. He showed us all that game that it was never really a question of "could he or couldn't he?" do it, it was a question of "will he or won't he?". The skill was there, but until that game he never really had to. It was a choice for him all along. It's an added dimension of his already stellar game that he can and will incorporate if needed or called for. For Young, it's a key part his style of play that he relies on. Forced to choose, i'd rather have a guy who didn't have to rely on being uber-mobile to play his game.

we'll win with whoever it is.

Torrence, huh? Interesting.....

i never had a problem with it, tbh. whatever it took to get more fans in pantherland and in here i was cool with. i figured, in fact, that will a personality as dynamic as his and with winning, that we were going to get "bandwagon" fans who ended up sticking around and we did. the truth is for all of us that were around before 1995, we became bandwagon fans of the panthers. that's how we start out. some migrate in and and some migrate in and stay. i'm cool with either.

more respected as an OC than an HC. Offensive mind gets respect because of New England work. I would argue that anything in New England is inflated when it comes to reputations of former assistants, but for some reason they all have had too much clout.

i'd love us to pick up another vet edge guy. draft after QB i want us to focus on WR/TE/CB. I have no real preference to order, just BPA of each of them after round 1. ideally we'd also be able to add to the OL every draft, but i'm not sure if we'll be able to. i actually wouldn't mind if we were to sacrifice our last couple picks in moving up to help make sure we get all three of those addressed. take the BPA at 39 and then move up to get those other two.

lol you've done more than lean.

respectable and understandable opinion.

i don't know...i think it's kind of worth it to have the ability to make this choice. i'll gladly put up with being slightly annoyed for a couple months just so we can have a dominant QB for the next decade+.

i'm anxious to see what they look like and i thnk it's probably going to happen, but i don't have any clue whatsoever what they should look like. i do know that the ideas that have been thrown around in this thread have me less than enthused lol.

what's funny is the number of people who are pissed and offended and feel they need to retaliate if someone has the nerve to have a different opinion.

if any iteration of the panthers org/coaching staff should be trusted to make the decision, it's this one. until i see otherwise...

i don't know about it being a great debate other than i think it's a much better debate to be having than 'who the fug are we going to pick at 9?' For me i don't see much point in arguing or getting upset about it because, from where i'm standing, we win either way.