A realistic/interesting 1st round mock draft - CBSSports

[micnificent28]

4 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

So you are completely guessing his 40' based off what??.. He hasn't ran a 40 do to injuries.. Not one book or draft expert has him as a 4.8 guy..

So basically you formed a opinion on poo you made up...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020744/Clelin-Ferrell-s-2019-NFL-Scouting-Combine-workout So he's out there doing all this and injuries stoped him from running a 40? come on bro. this dude is hiding his 40 time. he looks sluggish and stiff. Injuries aren't why he doesn't have a 40..

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, Sub Zero said:

Everytime lol bring up Ferrell production in college to you (a DE) .. You bring up Qb's..

Your own words..

Like you bring up stephen hill?

[Sub Zero]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020744/Clelin-Ferrell-s-2019-NFL-Scouting-Combine-workout So he's out there doing all this and injuries stoped him from running a 40? come on bro. this dude is hiding his 40 time. he looks sluggish and stiff. Injuries aren't why he doesn't have a 40..

So again you don't have any "facts" he is a 4.8 40 guy .. Just your suspicion of his intent in not running 40' ??? Huh

You made up something in your mind... Formed a opinion based on nothing but your suspicion of Ferrell's "flagrant intent to fraud you of his 40' time".. And posted it as facts over and over and over again.. 

Lol.. 

And nobody else thinks this is off..

[Sub Zero]

12 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Like you bring up stephen hill?

Mike Mamula..

[Sub Zero]

Something even funnier..

http://www.draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1002536&DraftYear=2019

Nick Bosa.. The highest rated player and edge player in this draft.. By all your books and every talking head you listed .. 

IS A 4.8 40' GUY!!   HAHAHAHA 

So you wouldn't draft Nick Bosa at 16 right??

Lol

[Sub Zero]

1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

Welcome to debating with sub—zero.. your dumb uninformed if you don’t think Ferrell is athletic. Fact is I eat sleep and breath this draft stuff. I base my opinion off multiple sources and film. I buy draft books I subscribe to espn insider and read scouts inc, Kiper, Mcshay, Norris, Jeremiah, everything I can find even walterfootball(he’s kind of funny)

but every where you go people let you know he’s not an elite athlete like those guys. I’m gonna give you another example.

1. NICK Bosa is a actual 4.8 40' guy.. ohhhh noooo..

M28 definitely don't want him..

[micnificent28]

17 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

So again you don't have any "facts" he is a 4.8 40 guy .. Just your suspicion of his intent in not running 40' ??? Huh

You made up something in your mind... Formed a opinion based on nothing but your suspicion of Ferrell's "flagrant intent to fraud you of his 40' time".. And posted it as facts over and over and over again.. 

Lol.. 

And nobody else thinks this is off..

We don’t have a 40 time because of said “toe injury” but every projected time comes from some where and most people project him as a 4.7-4.8 guy.

[micnificent28]

11 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

1. NICK Bosa is a actual 4.8 40' guy.. ohhhh noooo..

M28 definitely don't want him..

Nick bosa showed elite quickness with his 10 yard split being 1.55. Quinnen Williams split was 1.69 for comparisons sake, Arron Donald’s split wasn’t 1.63 and fletcher Cox’s split was 1.66. The lower the number the better.

[Sub Zero]

9 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

We don’t have a 40 time because of said “toe injury” but every projected time comes from some where and most people project him as a 4.7-4.8 guy.

Omg you're a hypocrite..

1. You completely shot down Walterfootball as a respectable sight in another thread.  Now you post their guesses.. Because again he hasn't ran a legit recorded 40'..

2. You also down graded Draft scouts when I posted they had him in the 4.6 range and rated higher than Gary and Burns. 

You can't cherry pick stats and reverse your opinion to make a point.. You lose all credibility.   

[heel31ok]

On 3/29/2019 at 12:39 AM, micnificent28 said:

My god can we stop with the bs Farrell pick. We aren't taking that guy... clearly the franchise is looking for a pure pass rusher burns sweat style not just a guy in 4-3. We get it you guys love Farrell... same 3 guys keep reposting the look farrell crap.

Lol...Ferrell would be fine in our scheme...

[micnificent28]

10 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Omg you're a hypocrite..

1. You completely shot down Walterfootball as a respectable sight in another thread.  Now you post their guesses.. Because again he has ran a legit recorded 40'..

2. You also down graded Draft scouts when I posted they had him in the 4.6 range and rated higher than Gary and Burns. 

You can't cherry pick stats and reverse your opinion to make a point.. You lose all credibility.   

I don't agree with his opinions because he is kind of a jerk,i do read what walter says and he does have some connections and came to same conclusion as everyone else or near the same number on Ferrell's 40. I used that draft scouts thing because it was the site you go to...I don't agree with there rankings of where players are but that doesn't mean their speed records are off. Just don't agree with where they rank players.I have never read or posted any of their info i just remembered you use it for your information and thought them telling you he's slow would get through to you but i guess not.... I'm showing projected times to you not football ability man lol. I also posted espns projected time I gave you 3-4 different sources so you would finally get the point. The guy isn't a good athlete. he's not Bosa, he's not Chubb, Hell he's not anything athletically. He's just a guy...

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

Lol...Ferrell would be fine in our scheme...

In a generational talented class do you wanna settle for fine... I mean fine is fine... but better is what your shooting for.

[Sub Zero]

8 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Nick bosa showed elite quickness with his 10 yard split being 1.55. Quinnen Williams split was 1.69 for comparisons sake, Arron Donald’s split wasn’t 1.63 and fletcher Cox’s split was 1.66. The lower the number the better.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/clelin-ferrell?id=32194645-5255-8663-cd04-9e42913c7a38

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nick-bosa?id=3219424f-5307-3285-8013-e0658c01933d

And Celine with a hurt foot was only

0.16sec behind Bosa in 3 cone and

0.26 sec behind in the 20 yard shuttle..

That's not a avg. Athlete..lol

[micnificent28]

6 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/clelin-ferrell?id=32194645-5255-8663-cd04-9e42913c7a38

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nick-bosa?id=3219424f-5307-3285-8013-e0658c01933d

And Celine with a hurt foot was only

0.16sec behind Bosa in 3 cone and

0.26 sec behind in the 20 yard shuttle..

That's not a avg. Athlete..lol

Both Bosa's weren't great athletes themselves... neither of them were barn burners and were just average.. the fact your guy is even slower than them says more about him than them. They also have some serious speed to power conversions. Basically they aren't fast but are very good at converting speed to power and are on another level than Ferrell. lets not compare them to him.I just showed you him running around the combine his foot didnt look hurt to me. That dude just doesn't want you to see him run a 5.0.