We doan need no friggin' stats

[gmonet]

...to know that the offense has got some serious penalty issues. With all the yappin' here about Matt Moore, did any of these "critics" watch how many times he made some awesome passes and had them dropped, called back numerous times for stupid FS or holding penalties? I mean he lost easily a hundred yards of gain from "bring 'em backs." Heaven help #69 if he can go through a game false-start free!

There is no humor in this however, and it clearly got to the media crew as well. The games whole tempo, and Matt's cadence was destroyed by the lack of OL and BF discipline! A word I am oft using, because the count is crucial and nearly half the guys did not show the discipline to remain fixed and ignore the temptations to react...which is part fo the ST's issue as well.

Can someone explain to me WTF is still going on with JG on this issue? I could like the guy a lot more if he was not the predictable FS'er he is.

[2jakefansinva]

Jordan Willig Gross.

[Serrao]

I guess i can see how his tempo being off caused him miss the Jarret TD. I saw a lot of WR's having to make great catches to get those "great" passes but hey if his tempo is off .....

He does throw a mean screen pass.

[marcopolo]

Not to mention those penalties cause him to miss wide, and high on most of his attempts last night. I dont think there has been a single pass by Matt Moore, this preseason, that has made people say wow, what a good throw.

[beastson]

Like I said after Baltimore game, PLEASE dont let this be a issue in the season

Lets talk about those throws that was called back

[gmonet]

Like I said after Baltimore game, PLEASE dont let this be a issue in the season

Lets talk about those throws that was called back

Exactly. We forget how many times we had a first and ten from Jake, only to have #69 called for a FS last year, the year before, and the year before that, which followed the year before that! Execution is a noun!

Look, it is not just Gross, though I think he's the "captain" of that team division, but it is a lack of concentration and preparation...that is a weakness the coaching staff should have to lay claim to! Is that wrong?

[gmonet]

95 yards those penalties cost us gang...would you be pissed if a 91 yard return were called back for say, a gross penalty like false start or holding? I would bet that Matt Moore did not mis-throw that many yards...NOT dropped balls mind you. Yet we are ready to crucify the guy when it seems the issue is total offense and not one player gets to exclude himself, not one offensive coach gets to blame a player for that many..11 screw ups!

[PhillyB]

remember the first three games of the 2008 season?

good coaching will turn this around. shouldn't be a problem be week one.

[Jangler]

remember the first three games of the 2008 season?

good coaching will turn this around. shouldn't be a problem be week one.

I could buy that if it were something Gross hasn't always done, no matter what part of the season it is. Maybe we should start a thread and count up all the gross false starts Gross has all year.

[gmonet]

remember the first three games of the 2008 season?

good coaching will turn this around. shouldn't be a problem be week one.

I sure do PhillyB! I also remember so damn many people, who prolly didn't go to a game and have to stash out $4 for a lame 20 oz's of H2O, that "It doan matter squat..it's a damn preseason game...it doesn't count!'

Well poo, I got smart and said who the heel needs to pay for a game that doesn't count...aren't I smart?

Of course that is lame asst as the "IDC" trolls...they lose, I kill squirrels!

[EMSMedic79]

I thought initially JG might be getting victimized by the new umpire positioning...but now I'm starting to think he just has a problem.