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We're Not The Underdogs?

beastson

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It's called an upset because we are favored, not because of how an individual analyst sees the teams or outcome.

But we're going to lose

If you feel we're going to lose why call it an upset? I dont see how its an upset when its the first game of the season, anything can happen. Its not like its week 13 and we're the ones with the much better record. They are picking the Bucs cause of FA and preseason game against the Pats

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But we're going to lose

If you feel we're going to lose why call it an upset? I dont see how its an upset when its the first game of the season, anything can happen. Its not like its week 13 and we're the ones with the much better record. They are picking the Bucs cause of FA and preseason game against the Pats

Because we are the odds favorite.........Like I meant, when I said "We are favored"........

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Analysts don't go off Vegas, or should I say they shouldn't go off Vegas. They go off the tape, record, and who has the best players. You know that

If the analysts don't go off Vegas, then where does "upset" and "underdogs" come from?

I think that's what this thread is asking about. Not quite sure.

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If the analysts don't go off Vegas, then where does "upset" and "underdogs" come from?

I think that's what this thread is asking about. Not quite sure.

Both kinda go off the same thing, Im saying analysts don't go look at the odds and say oh they're the favorite. They have their own measures on who's who

What I'm saying is I don't get the term upset when both teams are 0-0, but since they're still picking them to win... doesn't that make them the favorite and we're the underdog?

The reason we're this "favorite" is cause of last year records, thats Vegas. I'm going off the analysts that actually digs deeper, which I said is obviously just off acquisitions and the game against the Pats. Thats ridiculous

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Both kinda go off the same thing, Im saying analysts don't go look at the odds and say oh they're the favorite. They have their own measures on who's who

What I'm saying is I don't get the term upset when both teams are 0-0, but since they're still picking them to win... doesn't that make them the favorite and we're the underdog?

The reason we're this "favorite" is cause of last year records, thats Vegas. I'm going off the analysts that actually digs deeper, which I said is obviously just off acquisitions and the game against the Pats. Thats ridiculous

The terms: Favorite, Underdog, Upset, Odds-on Favorite, etc. - Have always been tied into odds. You seem to think that these terms are based on records and other factors, and to an extent they are, but records are usually indicators of the strength of a team. For instance, Vegas isn't going to favor a 2-11 team over a 14-0 team, it's just not going to happen (baring some extreme circumstance). So odds generally begin to fall in line with overall records. The odds for the initial part of the season are best guesses and analysis by the odds makers. If you think that Vegas just put this line up based on last years record then you are fuging clueless. They do just as much analysis as the people who write for ESPN, if not more.

Point is, the term "upset" is based on the vegas line, in this case, whether you want to accept that or not.

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