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#1 Al Bundy

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:27 PM

Murq and I debate this at least once a week. It isn't about the numbers, or who has more 50 yard catches. It's about pure ability.

Pros for each:

HINES: Hands, best blocking WR in the game, route running, possession receiver

SMITTY: Hands, speed, agility, route running, possession receiver


Really the only area that Smitty is better than Hines is at the "big play" ability, which is really speed + hands combined.

I view Hines as the better overall due to his blocking ability. It's fact that he is the best blocking receiver ever.


Thoughts?






And please, no dick riding.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:30 PM

Are you fuging serious? Smitty blows him away.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:31 PM

Are you f**king serious? Smitty blows him away.


Dick riding...

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:34 PM

Comparing two different type of receivers?

Not even worth a real answer.

Btw, steve blocks his ass off.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:34 PM

Dick riding...


Ward wishes he could have Smith's ability. Smitty has put a couple linemen on their asses a few times over, he is no push over in run blocking.

#6 Al Bundy

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:36 PM

Ward wishes he could have Smith's ability. Smitty has put a couple linemen on their asses a few times over, he is no push over in run blocking.


I did not say he was. But, ask anyone. Any analyst, any commentator, any fan. You'll get a universal answer that Hines is the best blocking receiver ever.

They actually are not 2 different types of player. They are actually very similar.

Also, Smitty has 25 career fumbles to Hines' 12.

#7 DudeNamedJeremy

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:39 PM

I did not say he was. But, ask anyone. Any analyst, any commentator, any fan. You'll get a universal answer that Hines is the best blocking receiver ever.


and i'm sure if you asked those same people "who would you rather have, ward or smith?" you'll get a universal answer of steve smith:)

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:52 PM

Btw, steve blocks his ass off.


that's what i was thinking...

smith blocks and at times hits just as hard or harder than harris, davis, and beason. i'm sure someone can dig up video of him taking linemen off their feet.

my vote is for smith...not for homerism, but because smith produces more jaw dropping highlight material and imo is a bigger gamebreaker than ward.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:53 PM

I did not say he was. But, ask anyone. Any analyst, any commentator, any fan. You'll get a universal answer that Hines is the best blocking receiver ever.


That's not a good argument. People say Chris Johnson is the fastest RB in the league, that doesn't mean DeAngelo is slow and nowhere near Johnson. Hines is not THAT far ahead of Smith when it comes to blocking. They're both great.

At the moment Smith is better IMO. Smith brings big play potential, and is one of the most dangerous players in the league with the ball in his hands. Hines Ward brings consistency, but just doesn't have the same play-making ability. Also: Hines has Holmes to take attention away from him. Smith has no one near the talent level of Holmes.

With that said, I think Smith is going to end up taking a Hines-style role when he starts losing his speed(a possession/blocking receiver.)

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:58 PM

Has Ward ever been suggested as the best WR in the league? Don't think so.

#11 Al Bundy

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 03:59 PM

That's not a good argument. People say Chris Johnson is the fastest RB in the league, that doesn't mean DeAngelo is slow and nowhere near Johnson. Hines is not THAT far ahead of Smith when it comes to blocking. They're both great.


I'm not, in any way, saying Smitty is bad blocking. At all. But Ward is the elite here. Not many come close, but even those that do are still a bit off.

The main argument here for Smitty is that he has bigger upside for the big play. He undoubtedly does, but, that is not everything. I break it down to each individual skill. Some Ward has the edge on, some Smith. I just feel that when you package them all, the end result is Ward >

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:04 PM

Hines Ward has a Steve Smith poster above his bed.

#13 DudeNamedJeremy

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:06 PM

Hines Ward has a Steve Smith poster above his bed.


i think i do remember seeing that on an episode of mtv cribs

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:08 PM

and i'm sure if you asked those same people "who would you rather have, ward or smith?" you'll get a universal answer of steve smith:)


I'm sure you will...I believe last time I checked, this is a CAROLINA PANTHERS forum. Hiny Ward ain't got poo on Smitty dude.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:09 PM

"Quote "It's fact that he is the best blocking receiver ever.

What Stats are you backing that up with ?


Hines is this best of this era !

Art Monk back in the day,
was a big reason Riggins broke a lot of runs .


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