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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:04 AM

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

As Israel steps up its targeting of civilian infrastructure in the Gaza Strip on the fourth day of an assault that began when it violated a truce on 14 November, and calls up reservists in advance of a possible ground invasion, Israeli officials are distributing a graphic that appears intended tojustify in advance the bombing of Gaza hospitals and health facilities.

The graphic published by the Israeli army is a fake hospital sign that purports to show that Hamas leaders hide under hospitals and stockpile weapons there.

Ofir Gendelman, an official spokesman for the Israeli prime minister tweeted the same image in Arabic.


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During "Operation Cast Lead," its savage 2008-2009 assault on Gaza, Israel carried out widespread attacks on hospitals and health facilities. As a 2009 report by European develoment and rights organizations noted:

A World Health Organization (WHO) assessment of 122 health facilities in Gaza revealed that 48% were damaged or destroyedduring the offensive: 15 hospitals and 41 primary health care centres were partially damaged; two primary health care centres were destroyed; and 29 ambulances were partially damaged or destroyed.

And during the 2008-2009 invasion, as The Electronic Intifada reported, Israeli forces killed 16 medical rescuers, four in one day alone. Another 57 were injured.


http://electronicint...-gaza-hospitals

An Israeli minister has called for the army to bomb Gaza until the population flees en masse into Egypt's Sinai peninsula, and for water and electricity supplies to be cut, a clear case of incitement to war crimes.

Israel Katz, Israel's transport minister, was quoted on the Orthodox website B'Hadrei Haredim on 11 November:

Israel must act in Gaza with a very clear policy. The leadership of the Hamas, which is responsible for all the attacks and shooting, must be eliminated. Beyond that, we must detach from Gaza in a civilian manner - electricity, water, food, and fuel - and transition into a policy of deterrence, just like in Southern Lebanon."

Why don't they shoot at us from Southern Lebanon and do from Gaza? Because there is no clear boundary with Gaza. Because the civilian link with Gaza is unreasonable. Gaza should be considered a border, and every time we are hurt, hurt back [retaliate]. When I see Palestinian citizens escaping into Sinai, the way Lebanese citizens escape toward Beirut when there is a round of fire against Israel - we will then know that the deterrence has been achieved."



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Katz, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud Party, appears to be inciting war crimes of the kind Israel committed in Lebanon and previously in Gaza.

In July 2006, hundreds of thousands of civilians in Lebanon fled their homes to escape an indiscriminate Israeli onslaught that left 1,200 people, mostly civilians, dead, and the country's infrastructure devastated.

Israel's bombardment of the civilian areas came to be known as the "Dahiya doctrine" after the southern suburb of Beirut that was leveled by Israeli attacks.

According to the UN-commissioned Goldstone Report, Israel applied the "Dahiya doctrine" again during its 2008-2009 attack on Gaza. Thereport said on page 23:

The tactics used by Israeli military armed forces in the Gaza offensive are consistent with previous practices, most recently during the Lebanon war in 2006. A concept known as the Dahiya doctrine emerged then, involving the application of disproportionate force and the causing of great damage and destruction to civilian property and infrastructure, and suffering to civilian populations.

The Goldstone report noted that Israeli officials had explicitly articulated the goals and methods of this strategy.

Such use of indiscriminate and "disrproportionate" force (there is no such thing as proportionate force against civilians), calculated to destroy civilian infrastructure and cause suffering, amounts to a war crime.

Now, just as in those previous cases, Israeli ministers are not shy about publicly stating their criminal intent, confident of the international impunity and complicity that has so far protected them from accountability.


http://electronicint...egypt-cut-water

Authority heads within 75-kilometer range from Gaza Strip instructed to prepare; some 2,000 Command reservists recruited so far

Home Front Command asks local authorities to prepare for seven-week fighting period: In discussions held between Home Front Command Chief Major-General Eyal Eisenberg, regional commanders and heads of local authorities in the center and in the south, authorities have been instructed to prepare for a seven-week period of combat as part of Operation Pillar of Defense and to prepare emergency supplies, accordingly.


http://www.ynetnews....4306834,00.html

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

Could the escalation be prompted by the Syrians and Iranians to distract attention from Assad's issues in Syria?

Opinion piece from Clinton's former middle eastern advisor.


Putting Hamas out of its self-inflicted misery will not come a moment too soon. Like a cancer that should have been contained and neutralized when it first seized control of Gaza, Hamas' savage, indiscriminate missile attacks on Israeli civilians demands a "kitchen sink" response -- no nation would stand for such unprovoked attacks against its population.

And before anyone sheds any tears for Hamas, let us not forget that its leadership is no different from Syria's Assad or Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps -- quasi-state sponsors of terror willingly placing innocent civilians at risk to ruthlessly hold onto power at any cost. Do Gaza's Palestinians relish another Israeli retaliatory invasion and the humanitarian hardship they will face as a result... all in the name of what exactly? That "resistance" bromide? Talk about a self-inflicted wound!


Perhaps it was because Qatar just forked over 400 million to Hamas to buy a new stockpile of terror weapons from Iran. Nothing like a U.S. ally arming a U.S. blacklisted terrorist organization to raise the question: What exactly is U.S. foreign policy toward Qatar accomplishing?

Perhaps Bashar al Assad's Iranian patrons encouraged their Hamas minions to deflect world attention away from his beleaguered Syrian allies by preoccupying Israel, the U.S. and Egypt (all Assad adversaries) with a sudden crisis on Israel's southern border.
Perhaps Hamas felt compelled to push its Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian allies to the brink of rupturing ties with Israel in order to set the stage for more international support for Palestinian statehood aspirations at the United Nations this month? Indeed, its assassination of Hamas' master terrorist-in-chief Ahmat Jabiri has provoked a wave of Arab condemnation.



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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:15 PM

Hamas rockets hit Jerusalem today. Wonder how the Arab world would react if a Hamas rocket destroyed the temple mount mosque? I imagine most of them would blame the United States.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:51 AM

Always two sides to this crap hole.

http://www.israelnat...30#.UKY27YY_Kq-

Well if israelnationnews says it I mean.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:10 AM

Yeah man, if only those Native Americans would have just sucked it up while we stole and forcibly marched then off their historically settled land, we could have brokered a deal. If those assholes hadn't been so terrorist-like in their defense of their homes we might not have been forced to kill off about 97% of them.

Interestingly, after the Balfour Declaration, the Muslims (and Christians) in Palestine objected to the idea of a mandate for a Zionist state located in Palestine, and they did so without the use of violence. This continued largely even after the British Mandate for Palestine following WWI, when they actually started pumping Jews into Palestine like Botox.



Sure seems like being peaceful and talking about stuff worked out for them! Talking and negotiations only work when the other side views you as actual human beings and not sub-human filth unworthy of attention.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:44 AM

Interestingly, after the Balfour Declaration, the Muslims (and Christians) in Palestine objected to the idea of a mandate for a Zionist state located in Palestine, and they did so without the use of violence. This continued largely even after the British Mandate for Palestine following WWI, when they actually started pumping Jews into Palestine like Botox.



Sure seems like being peaceful and talking about stuff worked out for them! Talking and negotiations only work when the other side views you as actual human beings and not sub-human filth unworthy of attention.


after what was done to rachel corrie i just can't fathom why palestinians can't be more like ghandi

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:47 AM

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:07 AM

Local news just led off with video of Gaza getting pummeled...

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:12 AM

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Looks like Israel's winning.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:47 AM

Rachel Corrie was a moron.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:18 AM

Jerusalem - Ahmed Al-Jabari - the strongman of Hamas, the head of its military wing, the man responsible for the abduction of the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit - was assassinated on Wednesday by Israeli missiles.

Why? Israel's government has declared that the aim of the current strikes against Gazais to rebuild deterrence so that no rockets will be fired on Israel. Israel's targeted killings of Hamas leaders in the past sent the Hamas leadership underground and prevented rocket attacks on Israel temporarily. According to Israeli leaders, deterrence will be achieved once again by targeting and killing military and political leaders in Gaza and hitting hard at Hamas's military infrastructure. But this policy has never been effective in the long term, even when the founder and spiritual leader of Hamas, Sheik Ahmed Yassin, was killed by Israel. Hamas didn't lay down its guns then, and it won't stop firing rockets at Israel now without a cease-fire agreement.

When we were negotiating with Hamas to release Mr. Shalit, members of the Israeli team believed that Mr. Jabari wouldn't make a deal because holding Mr. Shalit was a kind of "life insurance policy." As long as Mr. Jabari held Mr. Shalit, Israelis believed, the Hamas leader knew he was safe. The Israeli government had a freer hand to kill Mr. Jabari after Mr. Shalit was released in October 2011. His insurance policy was linked to their assessment of the value of keeping him alive. This week, that policy expired.

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Passing messages between the two sides, I was able to learn firsthand that Mr. Jabari wasn't just interested in a long-term cease-fire; he was also the person responsible for enforcing previous cease-fire understandings brokered by the Egyptian intelligence agency. Mr. Jabari enforced those cease-fires only after confirming that Israel was prepared to stop its attacks on Gaza. On the morning that he was killed, Mr. Jabari received a draft proposal for an extended cease-fire with Israel, including mechanisms that would verify intentions and ensure compliance. This draft was agreed upon by me and Hamas's deputy foreign minister, Mr. Hamad, when we met last week in Egypt.

The goal was to move beyond the patterns of the past. For years, it has been the same story: Israeli intelligence discovers information about an impending terrorist attack from Gaza. The Israeli Army takes pre-emptive action with an airstrike against the suspected terror cells, which are often made up of fighters from groups like Islamic Jihad, the Popular Resistance Committees or Salafi groups not under Hamas's control but functioning within its territory. These cells launch rockets into Israeli towns near Gaza, and they often miss their targets. The Israeli Air Force responds swiftly. The typical result is between 10 and 25 casualties in Gaza, zero casualties in Israel and huge amounts of property damage on both sides.

Other key Hamas leaders and members of the Shura Council, its senior decision-making body, supported a new cease-fire effort because they, like Mr. Jabari, understood the futility of successive rocket attacks against Israel that left no real damage on Israel and dozens of casualties in Gaza. Mr. Jabari was not prepared to give up the strategy of "resistance," meaning fighting Israel, but he saw the need for a new strategy and was prepared to agree to a long-term cease-fire.

This war is being presented in Israel, once again, as a war of "no choice." The people of Israel are rallying around the flag as would be expected anywhere in the world. The United States government has voiced its support of the Israeli operation by stating, "Israel has the full right to defend itself and protect its citizens." It certainly does, but we must ask whether there is another way to achieve the same goal without the use of force.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/opinion/israels-shortsighted-assassination.html?smid=re-share&_r=0

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:50 PM

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

Rachel Corrie was a moron.


yeah i guess she was pretty dumb to think that IDF gives a fug about human life

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:50 PM

http://www.nytimes.c...d=re-share&_r=0


israel doesn't want peace


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