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#41 panthers55

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

You see, all good things with Cam and this offense, can be taken from 2011 (and the the last 7 games of 2012).

We'll just suffer some timely amnesia, regarding those first 9 games 0f 2012. SMH


Who is forgetting? You? I was at all the home games and suffered through the late game collapses. Still what does that have to do with the fact we ran the pistol formation last year and this??

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

The pistol is exactly what read option is, except for the fact that the RB lines up behind the QB instead of off to the side. Come on man. It works sometimes and it doesnt work other times. As a base it does not work. as a sub package it forces Defenses to stay home and play very disiplined.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:50 PM

I can't think of any kind of explanation as to how it COULDN'T work. The pistol is no different than the shotgun or singleback formation. Just lined up differently. I mean you do the same thing in the pistol that you can do in those formations.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

The pistol is exactly what read option is, except for the fact that the RB lines up behind the QB instead of off to the side. Come on man. It works sometimes and it doesnt work other times. As a base it does not work. as a sub package it forces Defenses to stay home and play very disiplined.


THE PISTOL IS NOT THE READ OPTION!

Do some people think college football and go, "LOL OPTION."

Umm, watch West Virginia University. You can run the pistol JUST like you run any other formation. Heck, the DETROIT LIONS with STAFFORD utilize the pistol.

Do people seriously think running the pistol automatically means running the read option? It is just a formation... like any other formation.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:53 PM

Who is forgetting? You? I was at all the home games and suffered through the late game collapses. Still what does that have to do with the fact we ran the pistol formation last year and this??


Oh. I was in agreement with you.

I was stating (as I wrote), "all good things with Cam and the offense came out of 2011", including what you pointed out. I had to throw the end of 2012 of course, cause that was Cam's best stretch. But I like what the Panthers ran in 2011.

Whether it was the pistol, I, 2 TE sets, Under Center, classic shotgun, etc., basically the Panthers need to stick to those sets and mix it up, as opposed to a heavy dose of the Shotgun type RO they ran early last year in over abundance.

Once again, I was agreeing with you. And even added a "LOL", after (but probably after you had responded).

No biggie.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:08 PM

THE PISTOL IS NOT THE READ OPTION!

Do some people think college football and go, "LOL OPTION."

Umm, watch West Virginia University. You can run the pistol JUST like you run any other formation. Heck, the DETROIT LIONS with STAFFORD utilize the pistol.

Do people seriously think running the pistol automatically means running the read option? It is just a formation... like any other formation.

yep. thought the same thing when i saw that. the pistol is a formation. the read option is a running play. not at all the same thing.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:22 PM

THE PISTOL IS NOT THE READ OPTION!

Do some people think college football and go, "LOL OPTION."

Umm, watch West Virginia University. You can run the pistol JUST like you run any other formation. Heck, the DETROIT LIONS with STAFFORD utilize the pistol.

Do people seriously think running the pistol automatically means running the read option? It is just a formation... like any other formation.


Which is exactly what I said. The pistol is a formation from which the read option is ran.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:06 AM

The pistol will not be the same next year. It wasn't that successful against an Atlanta team that sucks against the run. Next year, it will be like our read option. Lbs and des fresh out of collegecwill be prepared for it.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:07 AM

Hoge had a good segment on NFL Matchup this morning about how the Falcons shut down the read-option last week with the play of the DE and making sure they held their outside contain. Wilson didn't run the ball once out of the option.

It works, but anything you do in the NFL will get figured out by defenses... they're too smart and too fast. You have to change it up.

How did they stop an offense which they gave up over 500 yards of offense and Wilson was running all over the place picking up first downs. Hoge can suck his own rooster.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

The pistol will not be the same next year. It wasn't that successful against an Atlanta team that sucks against the run. Next year, it will be like our read option. Lbs and des fresh out of collegecwill be prepared for it.

You don't get the point. The read option doesn't mean the QB has to run it. giving up 180 yards rushing is not what is considered stopping the running game or read option.

Yes you stopped the QB from running but the RB is 10 yard down field. In fact, for injury purpose option teams would prefer it that way. I hope you don't say the same thing at the end of next year.


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