Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

2014 NBA Draft Talk


  • Please log in to reply
45 replies to this topic

#16 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:41 PM

Aaron Gordon

 



#17 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:41 PM

Marcus Smart

 



#18 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:42 PM

Andrew Harrison

 



#19 YOLO!

YOLO!

    MEMBER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 581 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:50 PM

Aside from Kobe and Duncan, you're pretty dumb if you dont think that CP3, Rose, Dwight, Harden, Parker, and Melo are franchise players.

 

I guess by that you also mean that only Brady and Manning are "franchise" qbs? Guys like Cam, Luck, Wilson, Ryan, Flacco, etc. are just "Pro Bowl" players right? You funny, but "YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE".

 

No i'm watch you call a hardcore basketball fan.

 

You are dumb if you think CP3/Melo/GHarden/Rose are franchise players, I give you Dwight because he led a subpar team to the Finals. But those other guys haven't did anything to be considered franchise players.

 

CP3/Melo has yet to lead their team past the 2nd round and you call them a franchise player LMAO!

 

You gotta win a championship as the main guy before I call you a franchise player or you have to be an amazing talent like Durant. So yeah I guess we just disagree on what a franchise player is.

 

 

You saying all those guys are franchise players, you are basically putting them in the same category as Lebron. I'm sorry but Lebron/Durant are just on another level than those other players.



#20 Porn Shop Clerk

Porn Shop Clerk

    Honky

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,170 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

dirk nowitzki is a franchise player?



#21 YOLO!

YOLO!

    MEMBER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 581 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 09:15 PM

dirk nowitzki is a franchise player?

Yeah 2 years ago, not now.



#22 Porn Shop Clerk

Porn Shop Clerk

    Honky

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,170 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 09:19 PM

i dunno about that, even 2 years ago



#23 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:00 PM

No i'm watch you call a hardcore basketball fan.

 

You are dumb if you think CP3/Melo/GHarden/Rose are franchise players, I give you Dwight because he led a subpar team to the Finals. But those other guys haven't did anything to be considered franchise players.

 

CP3/Melo has yet to lead their team past the 2nd round and you call them a franchise player LMAO!

 

You gotta win a championship as the main guy before I call you a franchise player or you have to be an amazing talent like Durant. So yeah I guess we just disagree on what a franchise player is.

 

 

You saying all those guys are franchise players, you are basically putting them in the same category as Lebron. I'm sorry but Lebron/Durant are just on another level than those other players.

 

A franchise player is one who can go out and win you games, take over games, when he's not playing chances are you're going to lose, and you build your whole team around him. Thats exactly what those guys I mentioned earlier are. New Orleans crumbled with the departure of CP3 and Chicago could've easily won two Championships if Rose didnt tear his ACL last year and is a pussy to come back this season. Now, you are dumb if you think CP3/Melo/Harden/Rose aren't franchise players.

 

Skill wise, I'm not going to put those guys along with LBJ or Durant. But, LBJ couldn't win a ring in Cleveland and even loss in his first Finals vs. the Mavs with Wade and Bosh playing by his side. Durant couldn't carry his team pass Memphis with the departure of Harden and injury to Westbrook. Now, you tell me why they're considered "franchise players" compared to the others.
 



#24 Wanderlai

Wanderlai

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,969 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:05 PM

I can't understand why there are some people wanting us to try for mediocre. Sign some mid level free agents and hope we get to the 8th seed in the playoffs??? All the while winning enough to stay at the back of the lottery. Now I  don't care for losing but that's the formula in the NBA. Big time FA won't sign here or any other small market. Only chance is to luck out in the draft for a star and build around them. Then you have to hope that player will resign and not bolt. 



#25 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:10 PM

i dunno about that, even 2 years ago

 

2 years ago, I would consider that he was.



#26 Porn Shop Clerk

Porn Shop Clerk

    Honky

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,170 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:12 PM

not the way he was talking about franchise players.

 

i trash kobe more than anyone, but he's a franchise player that couldn't get his team out of the first round without some stars around him



#27 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:17 PM

not the way he was talking about franchise players.

 

i trash kobe more than anyone, but he's a franchise player that couldn't get his team out of the first round without some stars around him

 

lol. gotcha'

 

I would completely agree with you.



#28 YOLO!

YOLO!

    MEMBER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 581 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:26 PM

A franchise player is one who can go out and win you games, take over games, when he's not playing chances are you're going to lose, and you build your whole team around him. Thats exactly what those guys I mentioned earlier are. New Orleans crumbled with the departure of CP3 and Chicago could've easily won two Championships if Rose didnt tear his ACL last year and is a pussy to come back this season. Now, you are dumb if you think CP3/Melo/Harden/Rose aren't franchise players.

 

Skill wise, I'm not going to put those guys along with LBJ or Durant. But, LBJ couldn't win a ring in Cleveland and even loss in his first Finals vs. the Mavs with Wade and Bosh playing by his side. Durant couldn't carry his team pass Memphis with the departure of Harden and injury to Westbrook. Now, you tell me why they're considered "franchise players" compared to the others.
 

We will agree to disagree.

 

You have your opinion and I have mine.

 

Melo/CP3/Rose/Harden are allstars in my mind, like I said Lebron/Durant are once a generation type talents they will go down as top 10 players alltime when they are done playing, you cant say the same for those other guys.



#29 chubs2496

chubs2496

    Senior Member

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,186 posts

Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:30 PM

I have to say, I think Jabari Parker will be the best player in the draft by a fairly wide margin. Watching him play, it's almost like watching Carmelo Anthony play. He's just such a dominant SF. No, he isn't going to do all of the things LeBron can do, he's not a mix of all five positions like LeBron is, but he's a scorer from the SF position the likes of which has been seen in years.

However, I don't think Parker is going to have an incredible college season. He doesn't fit the system of Duke correctly. He's not going to have the ball in his hands a majority of the time. He's not going to get to go iso. He's not going to be able to take over the game from the wing, just because that isn't Duke's offense. It could drop him down just a few spots and put him in that 3-5 pick range.

Also, Julis Randle is a man. That dude is going to dominate college basketball in way that hasn't happened in years. We're talking Blake Griffin level of good.

Agreed. Randle is a monster and will have a pretty big year. But honestly I don't see why everyone is up wiggins and Parker's ass. I'm way more impressed by randle. The dude will live at the free throw line in college and pros

#30 carolina-chuck

carolina-chuck

    HORNETS 2014

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,316 posts
  • LocationKurby

Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:57 PM

Agreed. Randle is a monster and will have a pretty big year. But honestly I don't see why everyone is up wiggins and Parker's ass. I'm way more impressed by randle. The dude will live at the free throw line in college and pros

 

Honestly, I sort of agree with you. I like Randle and Parker more than Wiggins. But, like everyone else we only sees youtube highlights. We're not the scouts that have been keeping up with these kids for years. I guess we'll get to taste it for the first time this upcoming season.
 




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users