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Saints expected only a 4 game suspension...

Mar 22 2012 01:27 AM Mr. Scot Carolina Panthers
So here's a little tidbit that ought to bring a smile to your face.

Apparently the Saints, knowing the league was upset, had already put in place a contingency plan designed to help the team deal with the impending suspension of Sean Payton.

Wise move, right?

The problem: All their plans were based on the expectation that it would be a four game suspension that wouldn't have been in effect until September.

Oops :wacko:

Saints were bracing for a four-game suspension for Payton

When the NFL initially cracked the case of the Saints’ bounty program, coach Sean Payton didn’t believe he’d be suspended at all. Once Payton appreciated the gravity of the situation, he understood a suspension was coming.

A league source tells PFT that Payton and the Saints specifically expected a four-game suspension. Per the source, a plan already had been concocted for getting the interim head coach ready to take the reins, and Payton would have hunkered down and spent the month preparing for the games to be played later in the season.

And so a full-season suspension was jarring to Payton and to the organization.


Florio goes on to argue that team leadership was dumb to not at least consider the possibility that it might have been longer. He also points out that given what happened, it actually could have been even worse.

So now, not only do we know that the punishment is going to be a painful one; we also know that the Saints organization thought they were well-prepared for it...

...but it turns out they really weren't :lol:

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they deserve what they get.

ridiculously harsh or not, u fail to play by the rules and you get burned.

which is how it should be.

mcjon22 says: Mar 21, 2012 10:28 PM
[*]New Orleans not prepared for the worse case scenario? Nah, not that city, no way.



:D
Ouch.
It doesn't surprise me they underestimated the penalties, they have consistently ignored the warnings about the bounties and ignored the comissioner's office mandates to turn things around for years. is it any wonder that they made light of the seriousness of the punishments as well?
Somehow 55 thousand pages of documents were going to be overturned by simply saying that he was sorry. Sean is an arrogant man who has consistently done what he wanted and felt that his status and a super bowl win apparently made him invulnerable to consequences. Now he is being brought down to earth. It seems nothing but this type of serious punishment will point out to the Saints the seriousness of their transgressions. They still seem to not get it. While acknowledging publically that they were wrong, internally they still had no clue how much trouble they were in. I guess they do now.
http://sports.yahoo....s_bounty_032112

Souless bastards.

I like that. I think that is what I will call all of them from now on.
I'm still very interested to see what the players union does. Why any union would want to keep members that conspired to harm other members would be beyond me. It will be fascinating to watch what they do and how they rationalize not kicking them out if that's the route they take.
why are you posting this poo?

so through an unnamed source, let's call him "total bullshit I just made up," the saints were planning for their suspension to only be twice as bad, at most, as the last time a coach was suspended, and as such were planning someone to be a replacement.

save, publish.

You really think he had an actual source for that? Or that it's just common fuging sense and people like you you have bought into the idea that Florio knows anyone in the nfl?

I respect florio in a way, since he's proven you don't actually have to have any talent or knowledge about the nfl to be successful in it if you just post enough, a lesson you've obviously taken to heart and practice every thread.

We all know you're bland as hell and you get your kicks from boring us to death with paper bricks of "analysis." Somehow, you always manage to lower the bar for yourself.

I look forward to your next thread from walterfootball or some nonsense.
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lol

I'm still very interested to see what the players union does. Why any union would want to keep members that conspired to harm other members would be beyond me. It will be fascinating to watch what they do and how they rationalize not kicking them out if that's the route they take.


I agree, I want to see the bullshit excuses too. Brees appear to be in the clear as of now though. Not sure about the defense.
With Sean having to have complete control over the offense, they not only lost the head coach but basically the Offensive Coord also. Sure they will have the same offense but that timely play calling (right play at the right time) will be gone.

And if Brees holds out because his coach isnt gonna be there .... that will be a huge win for the whole NFL
If you think the punishement was harsh ( i did initially) ...read that entire PFT article that pretty much timelines everything and summarizes it in detail. ZERO sympathy for them, especially after they got warned and the NFL didn't say anything pubicly.

http://profootballta...nty-discipline/

If you think he punishement was harsh ( i did initially) ...read that entire PFT article that pretty much timelines everything and summarizes it in detail. ZERO sympathy for them, especially after they got warned and the NFL didn't say anything pubicly.

http://profootballta...nty-discipline/


You think this is light punishment?

They don't draft until the third this year.

Their coach and play caller has been banned from the league this year and hit with what is basically an 8 million dollar fine.

Their GM is going to miss the first half of the season, which is a massive hinderance when you think of everything a GM does in that time span. Trades, free agent acquisitions, contract extensions, all of that stuff can't be done. I'm sure you can think of some good examples of moves the Panthers have made once the season started.

There is one player on that team that matters, one who was pissed off about being on the franchise tag and who was five million dollars a year away from signing a contract extension. Now he's not only going to play without a long term contract, he's going to play without the guy calling the plays.

Greg Williams has been banned from the league.

And this is before the player suspensions. Vilma is likely done. Porter, Harper, and Smith are looking at suspensions.

The Saints have been fuged.
I honestly dont think Sean Payton is finished with punishment from the commish. As much as Sean has to have control, I can see him contacting players if things go south next year.

so then what does the commish do?


Think about it .. as long as Brees doesnt sign the contract he can be in touch with Payton.

Their GM is going to miss the first half of the season, which is a massive hinderance when you think of everything a GM does in that time span. Trades, free agent acquisitions, contract extensions, all of that stuff can't be done


He is suspended for the first 8 games. Not the time leading up to then

He is suspended for the first 8 games. Not the time leading up to then


congratulations, you demonstrated the ability to read what I wrote.

You think this is light punishment?

They don't draft until the third this year.

Their coach and play caller has been banned from the league this year and hit with what is basically an 8 million dollar fine.

Their GM is going to miss the first half of the season, which is a massive hinderance when you think of everything a GM does in that time span. Trades, free agent acquisitions, contract extensions, all of that stuff can't be done. I'm sure you can think of some good examples of moves the Panthers have made once the season started.

There is one player on that team that matters, one who was pissed off about being on the franchise tag and who was five million dollars a year away from signing a contract extension. Now he's not only going to play without a long term contract, he's going to play without the guy calling the plays.

Greg Williams has been banned from the league.

And this is before the player suspensions. Vilma is likely done. Porter, Harper, and Smith are looking at suspensions.

The Saints have been fuged.

How did you get that I think its a light punishment from what I wrote? What I was saying was that initially I thought it might have been harsh (not that I cared because its the Saints)...but after reading everything in detail, factoring in that they were warned, and lie repeatedly to cover it up. They earned every bit of this punishment.

congratulations, you demonstrated the ability to read what I wrote.


I don't think you have a clue what you wrote.
Fiz stop being a complete dickbag.

You think this is light punishment?

They don't draft until the third this year.

Their coach and play caller has been banned from the league this year and hit with what is basically an 8 million dollar fine.

Their GM is going to miss the first half of the season, which is a massive hinderance when you think of everything a GM does in that time span. Trades, free agent acquisitions, contract extensions, all of that stuff can't be done. I'm sure you can think of some good examples of moves the Panthers have made once the season started.

There is one player on that team that matters, one who was pissed off about being on the franchise tag and who was five million dollars a year away from signing a contract extension. Now he's not only going to play without a long term contract, he's going to play without the guy calling the plays.

Greg Williams has been banned from the league.

And this is before the player suspensions. Vilma is likely done. Porter, Harper, and Smith are looking at suspensions.

The Saints have been fuged.


And they deserve everything they get. This reminds of countless people who violate the rules in any endeavor and cry "woe is me" when they ignore the warnings to stop and finally have to get slapped before they get a clue. It isn't like this was a one time thing and who knows if it would have stopped if Williams had stayed. I suspect it would not. Even then the organization totally underestimates the seriousness of the offenses until they actually hear them spelled out.
There is no reason to feel sorry for the team or the organization. I can understand feeling sympathetic with the fans who have shelled out big bucks to purchase season tickets and who have followed the team for years. But the organization?? Not one bit.
Couldn't have happened to a more worthless franchis, imo! I still remember Fujita trying to take out Smitty! And of course, Roman Harper last year.
The way I see it, The Saints put their hand on the stove and Roger Goodell told them to take their hand off or they will get burned. They didn't and now have Third degree burns. You get what you deserve for being so stupid.

congratulations, you demonstrated the ability to read what I wrote.


You're not going to find a lot of sympathetic ears here. Yes the Saints got hit with a devastating punishment (despite what their fans would have you think). Yes it could have been worse than it is. Yes most of us giggled ourselves to sleep last night. Yes we'd be pissed if the tables were turned. No we don't give a fug if it offends someone's delicate sensibilities.

The way I see it, The Saints put their hand on the stove and Roger Goodell told them to take their hand off or they will get burned. They didn't and now have Third degree burns. You get what you deserve for being so stupid.


Pretty much.
Now, just wait till half that defense get's suspended!